LIE VS. FACT CHECK: Who is Gathering Information About the Mothers?

WHO IS GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT MOTHERS                                             AND CREATING A DATABASE??

 Lie vs. Fact Check Intro:

As we meander down this truth seeking path together, there are some lies so outrageous that you have to see it to believe it. We at A.T.W. are all for exposing the Lies vs. Fact Check.

This is how it will go:

1) We will quote the lie, and post the source it came from.
2) This will be immediately be followed by a quote of the facts, with proof

THE LIE:

Claudine Dombrowski, AMPP, has accused Bill Windsor of Lawless America of being connected to “Father’s Rights” and made accusations that he is creating a database to collect the information of abuse victims. Claudine has led her “Attack Mothers” aka supporters to harass, stalk, defame and threaten Bill Windsor.. as seen in this screenshot from Adrema Barbee Higgins.

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THE TRUTH:

Bill Windsor has previously issued a statement that he does not charge money to anyone appearing on Lawless America and he has created the documentary for a sincere purpose to help victims of government abuse and corruption,Lawless America does not charge a plug nickel for anything on our site or any help that we may be able to offer anyone.  I do all of this for no compensation of any type.  I do it out of the goodness of my heart — trying to battle corruption and help victims…”

Bill also explains that those appearing in “Lawless” are asked to provide basic contact information, and are voluntarily asked to provide that information as part of being in the film, this is a standard professional practice and is legally required,No one will be in the movie unless they provide their name, address phone number, email, and employment status. Anyone who takes the utterly ridiculous position that such information is identity theft needs mental help, in my opinion. These are people out to undermine this movie because the movie has the greatest chance of exposing the corruption and getting something done about it that any of us have yet seen... EVERYONE who appears in the movie will have to sign a release that allows us unlimited use of your likeness in promotion of the movie. Don’t sign the release, and you won’t be in the movie. This is a legal requirement that every movie must follow.”

See Full Statement of Bill Windsor on the “Lawless” movie release, and false accusations from Roxanne Grinage (Hire Lyrics): http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=798:roxanne-grinage-of-hirelyricsorg-is-the-latest-person-to-attempt-to-interfere-with-production-of-lawless-americathe-movie&catid=133:lawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105

The Truth: Claudine offers no evidence, documentation or other proof to substantiate this ridiculous claim, one of many lies she has waged against her (quote) “hit list“...she just wants you to take her word. And Claudine’s word so far has involved profanity, death threats, degrading comments about women and defamation. Clearly, Claudine’s word is not to be believed. 

Who’s the REAL Stalker?

 

The Truth: Claudine aka Petunia Pig has been gathering her own “database” to collect information about the mothers coming to her for help, and is giving the information to an un-named 3rd party. Claudine is doing exactly what she accuses others of doing!

2009, Petunia Pig on ‘Glenn’s Cult’ “I am in the process of cooperating with a fellow blogger in preparing the first ever of it kind database for abused and protective moms. This database will be in place to protect those women new to the family rights scene on the internet.” 

NOTE THE DATE AS 2009- WELL BEFORE BILL WINDSOR BEGAN HIS DOCUMENTARY

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is collecting information about protective mothers and creating a “database”. How well has Claudine protected these moms from “Father’s Rights”?

 

Who is the “fellow blogger” Claudine is working with??  

We know Claudine has joined forces with the cyberbullies at Joeyisalittlekid whose ranks include a man who allegedy talks to dragons, a man whose YouTube video suggests he has a drinking problem, a pedophile (or two), and people who have attacked other Protective Mothers and their Supporters

And other groups including..

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is again collecting names for her database, claiming to protect the mothers from “father’s rights”. But who is protecting the mothers from Claudine and AMPP?

 

WHERE, OH WHERE ARE THE “FATHER’s RIGHTS” GROUPS???

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg claims she has to protect the mothers from “father’s rights” groups…See here that this facebook page “Best Interest” is connected to We the People Family Preservation (WTP FP); J Guy F Babineau is one of the founders. We the People supports Father’s Rights, if you visit their website, there is a link to Glenn Sacks; THE Glenn Sacks of Claudine/Petunia’s attack blog–“Glenn’s Cult”.

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 In December 2012, We the People Family Preservation was accused of misappropriating the confidential database of “Lawless America”–which means they have gained access to sensitive information about abused women and protective mothers. Claudine/Petunia was made aware of this in the Best Interest group. This is the exact database Claudine herself had been trying to gain access to. Is it a coincidence that Claudine has NEVER raised concern about We The People and never confronted WTP to protect the Mothers who may have been affected? Why isn’t Claudine doing anything to hold We the People accountable for stealing the information of the mothers?

We the People Family Preservation is connected to Roxanne Grinage, who was a keynote speaker at one of their events. Roxanne has attacked Bill Windsor and “Lawless America”  with various lies and allegations, which are hard to make sense of due to her delusional ramblings, as described in the above link.

Roxanne is connected to American Mothers Political Party, and Lorraine Tipton, and has subscribed to the vulgar videos AMPP posted about Bill on YouTube.

Roxanne was also promoted on the Joey’s blog (who are supporters of AMPP and they have joined forces in cyber bullying), where readers were encouraged to contact her,”NinjaMarch 7, 2103 at 10:01 pm   Whoever has the screen shots of Pie man asking for help finding personal information on people and their SS#s should send it to Roxanne.”

What does this mean? There is collusion between the various groups attacking Bill Windsor and “Lawless America” indicating these attacks are well planned, well coordinated and meant to attack Bill on various fronts with the intent to defame, intimidate, stalk, harass and ultimately shut down “Lawless” and with it, silence victims of government and family court abuse.

Sociopaths seek to “win” at any cost, defending themselves to the point of logical absurdity

A Summary of Facts…

1) Claudine is creating a database of the names and confidential information of abused women and protective moms, since at least 2009. Well before Bill Windsor, and “Lawless America” were in the picture.

2) Claudine says she needs this database to protect the mothers

3) Claudine won’t reveal her sources of who is working with her on this database

4) Claudine has openly denounced Father’s Rights groups and activists but at the same time is active, and posting on a page that connects to, and promotes Father’s Rights. And is working with a group that promotes Glenn Sacks, and links to his site from their own page.

5) Claudine is connected to a group that has “misappropriated” the confidential database of Bill Windsor. Instead of confronting those responsible, she attacks the victim–Bill. Instead of protecting those whose information is at risk, she supports the perpetrator.

6) If Claudine were truly protecting abused women and protective mothers, then why do her actions support those who are harming these same women?

If there is any doubt, ATW is posting another screen shot.. this was taken from a website that was promoted on the Best Interest Page, the same page Claudine/Petunia Pig is active on.

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The Gavel Slams Down on Cyberstalking Claudine Dombrowski…

From Bill Windsor of Lawless America:
“Bill Windsor of Lawless America puts Claudine Dombrowski and the American Mothers Political Party out of the stalking and threat business…

Claudine Dombrowski has been ordered to post nothing about me and remove all postings in regard to me…”


See FULL Statement at: http://claudinedombrowski.com/?p=176

How did Claudine Dombrowski get away with cyber stalking, harassment and online bullying for so long?

As tempting as it is to put all the blame on Claudine, she was enabled by sympathizers the Mother’s Movement (including many of those pictured below).

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Many organizations in the Mother’s Movement not only looked the other way, and made excuses for Claudine as she continued to bully, harass and terrorize, but in some cases they promoted Claudine and her “Attack Mothers” ( AMPP). Anyone who tried to stand up to Claudine and her abusive ways were swiftly and viciously attacked, or forced into silence.

California Protective Parents Association (CPPA), Center for Judicial Excellence (CJE), Mothers of Lost Children (MOLC) and Safe Child Coalition work very closely together and might be run by the same small group of advocates-( see below; the same advocate who is a Chapter Leader for MOLC is also a Chapter Leader for Safe Child Coalition)

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-all who have supported and actively promoted Claudine Dombrowski and AMPP. Their support and promotion continues even when all were aware of Claudine and AMPP’s abuse and cyber bullying towards Protective Mothers Alliance (PMA) and Lawless, and others. Also, it is very easy to go online and within seconds, see evidence in the search results that strongly suggest that Claudine has bullied, tormented, and made obscene postings about a number of people, and organizations. How could the Mother’s Movement continue to promote Claudine under these circumstances?

Claudine was a featured speaker at the Battered Mother’s Custody Conference (BMCC), speaking against abuse even as she was a perpetrator of abuse and other criminal acts.

Having her moment under the lights at the BMCC, was so important to Claudine that she canceled a scheduled visit with her daughter. Are these the actions of a mother who would do anything to see her child after a long estrangement?

SCREEN SHOT of CANCELLED VISIT

Claudine appeared in short documentary films produced by California Protective Parents Association ( CPPA). CPPA also encouraged people to join AMPP

SCREENSHOT CPPA REFERING PEOPLE TO AMPP

And Claudine has been supported by the Center for Judicial Excellence. Center for Judicial Excellence( CJE) and their leader Kathleen Russell Reportedly “Share Same Values” and “Work Very Closely Together” with AMPP:

Kyle Wigglesworth, an AMPP Attack Mother, struggles to defend AMPP on Barry Goldstein’s wall. Kyle has posted many false, misleading and defamatory comments on Barry’s wall against PMA, Bill Windsor and Lawless, and even attacking other protective moms.

These are just a few examples on how many professionals and organizations within the Mother’s Movement promoted Claudine and AMPP (the only exception ATW could find is Protective Mothers Alliance-PMA- International, and they became one of the primary targets of Claudine’s attacks).

That the Mother’s Movement would give refuge to an abuser like Claudine, and look the other way while she has caused real harm to countless victims should make you ask is any mother really safe? These are organizations that promote themselves to be domestic violence experts, advocates for women, and being such domestic violence experts they should know how to discern an abuser from a victim, an abuser from a traumatized woman, and then be able take action to protect and defend the victim. But if these organizations can’t do that within their own movement, how can they be expected and trusted to do that for protective moms in family court???

A.T.W. will continue to follow this story, and provide updates.. stay tuned

For More Info Read the Claudine Dombrowski Expose: http://claudinedombrowski.com

AMPP Attack Mothers Wage War – Blitzkrieg PMA, Lundy & Janice

You will see evidence that American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) has strategically, and systematically, organized their Flying Monkeys (aka supporters) to viciously attack Protective Mothers Alliance (PMA), Janice Levinson and astoundingly — Lundy Bancroft.

Keep in mind, AMPP is supposed to be part of the Mother’s Movement, and therefore, should be allies with PMA in the fight for family court reform. Lundy Bancroft is a respected leader in the fight for family court reform. Lundy is co-founder (along with Janice Levinson) of Protective Mothers’ Alliance International and has been a leader in the Mother’s Movement for decades. According to his online bio, Bancroft is an author, workshop leader, and consultant on domestic abuse and child maltreatment. He has worked with over a thousand abusers directly as an intervention counselor, and has served as clinical supervisor on another thousand cases. He has also served extensively as a custody evaluator, child abuse investigator, and expert witness in domestic violence and child abuse cases. Bancroft’s books ” Why Does He Do That? Inside The Minds Of Angry And Controlling Men” and “The Batterer as Parent” are considered as “bibles” in the Mother’s Movement. As you can see from this screenshot taken from the PMA page, it vows to be a “No Abuse Zone” (compare that to what AMPP is doing!)

A.T.W. has observed, and researched, that PMA is the ONLY organization in the Mother’s Movement that has stood up to, and took a stand against AMPP’s criminal activity and abuse. As a result, AMPP has escalated their attacks in retaliation. Below you will find a timeline supporting this.

Feb, 18, 2013 (Communication): After enduring vicious online attacks, cyber stalking and other forms of harassment and defamation, Bill Windsor of Lawless America, declares that American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) and their sister group Australian AMPP, are a hate group. He then blocks these groups (as best as he can, the members still make fake online profiles infiltrate, and stalk Windsor online).

Janice Levinson of Protective Mothers Alliance (PMA) responds that they have encountered similar problems with a member of Australian AMPP, who is using a fake name.
Direct Quote, “She is vicious and gave PMA, Lundy, and myself lots of problems too
. Bill please call me. Need to speak with you.”

Retaliation

The Attack Mothers at AMPP respond by waging an online blitzkrieg against PMA–making false allegations about PMA, Levinson and Bancroft. AMPP has attempted to discredit PMA and spread lies to confuse and frighten people from working with or joining PMA. AMPP has lied about its role in these attacks, and would like you to believe they actually support Bancroft, (a weak attempt at the old “divide and conquer” routine). You will see the truth here.

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Feb, 18, 2013, 11:35 pm: Mama Liberty aka Lorraine Tipton of AMPP declares war: (Direct Quote) “Lundy Bancroft’s mouthpiece, Janice Levinson, starting shit…ONCE AGAIN. YOU WANT WAR YOU GOT IT!”

Tipton also has been active on the Joeys blog.

AMPP Declares War

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Feb 19, 2013: Facebook
American Mothers Political Party
Lundy Bancroft’s mouthpiece, Janice Levinson, starting shit…ONCE AGAIN. YOU WANT WAR YOU GOT IT!
Like · · Share · 22 hours ago 7 people like this
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American Mothers Political Party BETTER yet call LUNDY xxx-xxx-xxx
21 hours ago · Like · 3

Elizabeth Hope Hernandez xxx-xxx-xxx This num will be found in various places..lol.lol. (Levinson’s phone number)
21 hours ago · Like · 3

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Karlie Maree Oh no! This is so sad and Childish. Lundy would not want his name associated with this I’m sure. Can I call that number from Australia?
19 hours ago via mobile · Like · 3

American Mothers Political Party I would not be surprised to find it various bathroom stalls in Fla even before it was posted on here.
19 hours ago · Like · 2

American Mothers Political Party Karlie Maree sadly Lundy is strongly associated
17 hours ago · Like · 2

Helen-Grace White janice is anti ampp because they know what she is– they know how they victim harvest – and thats what she does– they want mom’s information – then they can blackmail you later (<–ATW NOTE There is NO victim statements, no physical evidence, no police reports, no complaints whatsoever, nothing to support this outrageous lie)
16 hours ago · Like · 4

(More outrageous, unfounded lies and personal attacks on Levinson)

Kristi Jarrett Lundy Bancroft is one of the bad guys? Oh God….say it isn’t so! I thought he was an advocate.
13 hours ago via mobile · Like · 3

Truth about extreme Father Right’s groups Lundy is a great man, and I only heard AMPP said good thing about him…. it is Janice she uses people and lies ….. she is uses Lundy good name, to hurt people( <– ATW NOTE; AGAIN no proof of these allegations are ever offered. Clearly this is more criminal libel and character assassination by AMPP and their flying monkeys)
13 hours ago · Like · 1

AND

Truth about extreme Father Right’s groups just called Lundy and left a message for him about Janice supporting Bill Windsor that has lead to women getting death threat and rape threat and how bill supprt a Domestic terrorist group….he will get the mess feb/26….. when he is back in the office.….. IF HE CALL ME BACK, I will tell him how they screw over Keith, killing his help that has done a lot of good for PM in CT
12 hours ago · Like · 3

Karlie Maree I imagine he’s now stuck between a rock and a hard place
9 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2

American Mothers Political Party I used to thought he was a good guy too. USED TO. Trust us more is to come...
9 hours ago · Like · 3

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Feb 20, 2013, 12:03 pm: Levinson and Bancroft are attacked on the Joey blog by an anonymous commentor using personal attacks, profanity and hate speech of the worst kind. The Joey Blog is frequent by AMPP leaders and supporters, and prominently featured on Claudine Dombrowski’s many blogs. We strongly suspect this comment was left by Lorraine Tipton.

(Direct Quote) “Some may not know whom Janice Levinson is, the newest little minion and co-conspirator to Pie Boy. But you may have heard of Lundy Bancroft?

Bancroft is an author, public speaker, retreat doer upper, sweater vest wearing, sock puppet and all around a-hole of the whole ‘mothers rights’ movement. Oh yah, and he is also writing a ‘screen play’ and starting his own religion.”

Lundy Bancroft Attacked on Joey Site - Is anyone standing up to defend him?

(Direct Quote) Ninja February 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Anon 12:03 said Lundy Bancroft wants to start his own religion. So, perhaps that is why he supports LA and allows Janice to run around throwing people under the bus. Once Bully takes over the US with his new cult, Lundy is going to be the religious leader and Janice will be one of his wives. (finally)

This whole thing just gets sicker and sicker.

Meanwhile, all the whistleblowers outing the pie man are under fire.

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Feb 20, 2013: A petition is created called “Remove Janice Levinson from Protective Mothers Alliances” that includes more unsubstantiated allegations and attempts to spread rumors to discredit PMA.

It also says, “Since then, Janice Levinson, co-founder/executive director of PMA has aligned with “Lawless America” and has continued on re-victimizing battered mothers while Lundy Bancroft looks the other way or perhaps is not aware of the person in charge of his reputation and credibility is doing to ruin it.
WE DEMAND that Lundy Bancroft take action against the disgusting actions of Levinson and correct the hurts that have caused battered mothers to question WHY HE DOES THAT?

It is important to note that this harassing “petition” intended to remove Levinson from her position within PMA was derailed as PMA supporters,members,and leaders consumed this “petition” with a large show of respect and support for their leader. They were successful in shutting down the flying monkeys small collective voice of evil lies.

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The silence from the other organizations, advocates, and professionals in the “Mothers’ Movement” along with the Battered Mothers Custody Conference (BMCC) is deafening. How could anyone involved in a victim rights movement stand by in silence while fellow protective moms, advocates and respected professionals are being abused in this criminal fashion!??
What exactly IS the purpose of the Mothers’ Movement and BMCC??? Do they advocate against abuse…..or not?? Are they the voice of support, and justice for victim’s of abuse….or not?? These abusive attacks by AMPP and the flying monkeys towards PMA, Lundy, Janice, and others are ongoing, blatant and atrocious. A.T.W is compelled to ask all within the Mothers’ Movement, and the BMCC ; WHY ARE YOU STAYING SILENT!??

Since Feb, the attacks have escalated and continue to grow worse. Stay tuned as we at A.T.W. piece together this story, and expose the abusers!