LIE VS. FACT CHECK: Who is Gathering Information About the Mothers?

WHO IS GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT MOTHERS                                             AND CREATING A DATABASE??

 Lie vs. Fact Check Intro:

As we meander down this truth seeking path together, there are some lies so outrageous that you have to see it to believe it. We at A.T.W. are all for exposing the Lies vs. Fact Check.

This is how it will go:

1) We will quote the lie, and post the source it came from.
2) This will be immediately be followed by a quote of the facts, with proof

THE LIE:

Claudine Dombrowski, AMPP, has accused Bill Windsor of Lawless America of being connected to “Father’s Rights” and made accusations that he is creating a database to collect the information of abuse victims. Claudine has led her “Attack Mothers” aka supporters to harass, stalk, defame and threaten Bill Windsor.. as seen in this screenshot from Adrema Barbee Higgins.

THE TRUTH:

Bill Windsor has previously issued a statement that he does not charge money to anyone appearing on Lawless America and he has created the documentary for a sincere purpose to help victims of government abuse and corruption, “Lawless America does not charge a plug nickel for anything on our site or any help that we may be able to offer anyone.  I do all of this for no compensation of any type.  I do it out of the goodness of my heart — trying to battle corruption and help victims…”

Bill also explains that those appearing in “Lawless” are asked to provide basic contact information, and are voluntarily asked to provide that information as part of being in the film, this is a standard professional practice and is legally required,“No one will be in the movie unless they provide their name, address phone number, email, and employment status. Anyone who takes the utterly ridiculous position that such information is identity theft needs mental help, in my opinion. These are people out to undermine this movie because the movie has the greatest chance of exposing the corruption and getting something done about it that any of us have yet seen... EVERYONE who appears in the movie will have to sign a release that allows us unlimited use of your likeness in promotion of the movie. Don’t sign the release, and you won’t be in the movie. This is a legal requirement that every movie must follow.”

See Full Statement of Bill Windsor on the “Lawless” movie release, and false accusations from Roxanne Grinage (Hire Lyrics): http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=798:roxanne-grinage-of-hirelyricsorg-is-the-latest-person-to-attempt-to-interfere-with-production-of-lawless-americathe-movie&catid=133:lawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105

The Truth: Claudine offers no evidence, documentation or other proof to substantiate this ridiculous claim, one of many lies she has waged against her (quote) “hit list“...she just wants you to take her word. And Claudine’s word so far has involved profanity, death threats, degrading comments about women and defamation. Clearly, Claudine’s word is not to be believed. 

Who’s the REAL Stalker?

 

The Truth: Claudine aka Petunia Pig has been gathering her own “database” to collect information about the mothers coming to her for help, and is giving the information to an un-named 3rd party. Claudine is doing exactly what she accuses others of doing!

2009, Petunia Pig on ‘Glenn’s Cult’ “I am in the process of cooperating with a fellow blogger in preparing the first ever of it kind database for abused and protective moms. This database will be in place to protect those women new to the family rights scene on the internet.” 

NOTE THE DATE AS 2009- WELL BEFORE BILL WINDSOR BEGAN HIS DOCUMENTARY

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is collecting information about protective mothers and creating a “database”. How well has Claudine protected these moms from “Father’s Rights”?

 

Who is the “fellow blogger” Claudine is working with??  

We know Claudine has joined forces with the cyberbullies at Joeyisalittlekid whose ranks include a man who allegedy talks to dragons, a man whose YouTube video suggests he has a drinking problem, a pedophile (or two), and people who have attacked other Protective Mothers and their Supporters. 

And other groups including..

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is again collecting names for her database, claiming to protect the mothers from “father’s rights”. But who is protecting the mothers from Claudine and AMPP?

 

WHERE, OH WHERE ARE THE “FATHER’s RIGHTS” GROUPS???

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg claims she has to protect the mothers from “father’s rights” groups…See here that this facebook page “Best Interest” is connected to We the People Family Preservation (WTP FP); J Guy F Babineau is one of the founders. We the People supports Father’s Rights, if you visit their website, there is a link to Glenn Sacks; THE Glenn Sacks of Claudine/Petunia’s attack blog–“Glenn’s Cult”.

 In December 2012, We the People Family Preservation was accused of misappropriating the confidential database of “Lawless America”–which means they have gained access to sensitive information about abused women and protective mothers. Claudine/Petunia was made aware of this in the Best Interest group. This is the exact database Claudine herself had been trying to gain access to. Is it a coincidence that Claudine has NEVER raised concern about We The People and never confronted WTP to protect the Mothers who may have been affected? Why isn’t Claudine doing anything to hold We the People accountable for stealing the information of the mothers?

We the People Family Preservation is connected to Roxanne Grinage, who was a keynote speaker at one of their events. Roxanne has attacked Bill Windsor and “Lawless America”  with various lies and allegations, which are hard to make sense of due to her delusional ramblings, as described in the above link.

Roxanne is connected to American Mothers Political Party, and Lorraine Tipton, and has subscribed to the vulgar videos AMPP posted about Bill on YouTube.

Roxanne was also promoted on the Joey’s blog (who are supporters of AMPP and they have joined forces in cyber bullying), where readers were encouraged to contact her,”NinjaMarch 7, 2103 at 10:01 pm   Whoever has the screen shots of Pie man asking for help finding personal information on people and their SS#s should send it to Roxanne.”

What does this mean? There is collusion between the various groups attacking Bill Windsor and “Lawless America” indicating these attacks are well planned, well coordinated and meant to attack Bill on various fronts with the intent to defame, intimidate, stalk, harass and ultimately shut down “Lawless” and with it, silence victims of government and family court abuse.

Sociopaths seek to “win” at any cost, defending themselves to the point of logical absurdity

A Summary of Facts…

1) Claudine is creating a database of the names and confidential information of abused women and protective moms, since at least 2009. Well before Bill Windsor, and “Lawless America” were in the picture.

2) Claudine says she needs this database to protect the mothers

3) Claudine won’t reveal her sources of who is working with her on this database

4) Claudine has openly denounced Father’s Rights groups and activists but at the same time is active, and posting on a page that connects to, and promotes Father’s Rights. And is working with a group that promotes Glenn Sacks, and links to his site from their own page.

5) Claudine is connected to a group that has “misappropriated” the confidential database of Bill Windsor. Instead of confronting those responsible, she attacks the victim–Bill. Instead of protecting those whose information is at risk, she supports the perpetrator.

6) If Claudine were truly protecting abused women and protective mothers, then why do her actions support those who are harming these same women?

If there is any doubt, ATW is posting another screen shot.. this was taken from a website that was promoted on the Best Interest Page, the same page Claudine/Petunia Pig is active on.

Mother Goose Award: Claudine Dombrowski “Responsible for the Massive Father’s Rights Movement”

In review of our past posts, ATW has noticed because of the facts we have gathered, Claudine Dombrowski, of AMPP, has largely been presented in a negative light. Because of this, we are thrilled to announce something to report truly positive about Claudine…keeping in mind, that ATW only posts the truth backed up with proof or evidence, we want to take this opportunity to announce a new award specially designed for her.

Hats off to you Claudine aka Petunia Pig of the Glenn’s Cult Blog aka Angelz Fury aka Holocaust Historian Extraordinaire aka The Talking Vaginas aka Rhedde Carpet aka Impersonator of William M. Windsor aka Member of Alzheimer’s Lesbian Support Channel aka Dastardly Dads aka Walk On With Hope in Your Heart and You Will Never Walk Alone aka Powerpuff Girls and all those other aliases used…

The positive news is that Mothers are leaving AMPP, and are seeing the truth about Claudine’s “Wild Goose Chase” known as the American Mothers Political Party (AMPP). 

According to a comment on a page supporting Fathers and parental rights…“(Claudine) has caused a backlash from women in paternal families who are flocking to father’s rights groups in numbers I have never seen before. In essence, her (Claudine Dombrowski) and the likes of Barry Goldstein are responsible for the massive father’s rights movement.”

As such, we are giving Claudine the Mother Goose Award because she has led the Mothers on a “Wild Goose Chase” pretending to be an anti-abuse advocate who then has viciously attacked other Protective Mothers and Advocates like an abuser. Claudine has disgraced the Mother’s Movement and harmed the cause of family court reform  with her outrageous and criminal behavior. 

This screen shot posted by Claudine showing a woman whipping a man who is wearing a collar with chain connecting to AMPP, with “family court” written across his body, as he bends over on his hands and knees, is one example of how Claudine has disgraced the Mother’s Movement, and why she deserves this award.

Here’s to you Claudine… Honk! Honk!

 

 

 

 

Breaking News from Mother’s Movement: When Abuse is Acceptable

When Abuse is Acceptable:
(As Long As it is Done By “Survivors” and to Professionals)

A popular advocate in the Mother’s Movement (name withheld to protect her privacy) lashes out after Lundy Bancroft issued a statement denouncing Claudine Dombrowski and American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) for their abuse. Anon Advocate was upset that other Protective Moms were voicing concerns about Claudine and AMPP, and the lack of response from the Mother’s Movement–which has become a very public debate which has fueled more vicious attacks, right in front of the eyes of the Mother’s Movement. Even when the proof is pointed out to them, many advocates, professionals and organizations in the Mother’s Movement have chosen to defend/support/make excuses for the abuser and blame the victim for somehow deserving this brutality.

According to Anon Advocate…We should be more understanding when “wounded survivors” attack, threaten and libel others. Claudine & AMPP are connected to this hate blog, and receiving sympathy from the Mother’s Movement even as they call Protective Mom & Advocate, Janice Levinson, a “c–” and a “b—” and post disgusting pictures that say “wild animal sex”. Is this becoming the norm in the Mother’s Movement?

Anon Advocate’s response…support the abusers hiding in the Mother’s Movement, the victims must be more tolerant of these deranged women because, after all, they did survive abuse!

This blog connects directly to the AMPP main site..see how they yell “F– You!” to Lundy Bancroft, call him a “cult leader” who “profits off moms” and states that “Lundy Bancroft is no different than many of our abusers”. The bottom of this Verizon shot reads “Comment As American Mothers..”

According to this Anon Advocate (direct quote) “we are dealing with wounded survivors and everyone deals with trauma in his own way” so basically we need to be more tolerant and understanding of the abusive behavior of attack mothers in the Mother’s Movement, and look the other way as they stalk, terrorize and harass others (many who are Protective Moms or Helping Professionals). In her opinion, the Professionals should not be protected because they are not survivors, and should be able to handle the abuse on their own or get help.

This screenshot (below) gives the new rules on how to deal with abusers, according to this advocate from the Mother’s Movement:

New Rules of Mother’s Movement from Anon Advocate.. Taking a stand against abuse, denouncing the actions of abusive advocates and supporting victims will no longer be “tolerated” because “we are not going to chose sides here”. “Those ‘Professionals” can take care of themselves or get the help they need’. Anon Advocate claims several professionals have reviewed the complaints, and support her in this.

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Isn’t it concerning that an advocate Mother’s Movement is “warning” or threatening others to be silent about the abuse, and stating that their concerns will not be “tolerated”?

Anon Advocate even goes so far to say the victim does not have a right to defend themself because “this is about needs of the survivor”. This is an excuse for abuse. The above post by Anon Advocate prompts ATW to ask some logical and hard hitting questions; When does it become okay to frighten, intimidate and harm another person to suit the selfish needs of the abuser? Is this what the Mother’s Movement stands for? Is this the type of mind set and decision making skills “leaders” in the mothers’ movement possess? Are those in the movement unable to “walk their talk”? This person is considered an advocate and leader, really? Is this the best you can offer protective mothers in terms of support and safety? How can you ignore the abuse around you while advocating against abuse in family court?

Claudine Dombrowski threatens Bill Windsor with a .45, “Remember, Topeka has been known as the MENTAL HEALTH CAPITOL of the WORLD ha ha haha we got our rep honestly, we will put u in the funny farm ask questions later. ha ha ha ha
You will be better off just following me from the police station, It will be my pleasure to show you how to use a .45 up close and personal.
Put you out of your misery, mercy!” Claudine also refers to Bill Windsor as the “ball-less f– wonder” July 12, 2013 at 8:37 pm. http://angelzfury.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/bill-windsor-his-fake-movie-his-fake-threats-his-fake-balls-and-he-still-cant-get-his-rocks-off/

How can those in the Mother’s Movement justify Claudinine’s extreme behavior and a very obvious threat of harm against Bill Windsor and other protective mothers? And yet those who raise concerns, according to Anon Advocate, and expose the abusive advocate will not be “tolerated”! What will it take for the Mother’s Movement to take a stand against the abusive and threatening actions of some of their “leaders”..or are they changing the rules to excuse abuse, and blame the victims as they are being stalked and terrorized?

NOTE: In going through these screenshots and material of Claudine and AMPP’s abuse, some of our writers have reported nightmares and reacted in traumatic ways due to viewing this disturbing content. We cannot imagine how the victims are suffering, and especially the Protective Mother victims who have no support in the Mother’s Movement. Our heart goes out to them.