Barry Opens a Dialogue with ATW Readers: Sexism & Domestic Violence

(Note: These are the words of Barry Goldstein and do not necessarily reflect the views, position, or beliefs of Among the Wolves. ATW strives to remain neutral, and present the information so You, the Reader, can come to your own conclusions.)
 
Barry Goldstein has read the reader comments on ATW and graciously offered a dialogue so he (his own words),”concentrate on how the material impacts you and the questions you have“. Barry is offering his thoughts, and looking forward to receiving your thoughts and/or feedback in return. This is not a “formal” article but rather a response generated by ATW reader comments, and general observation Barry has made in his years of experience working in the legal profession, and as a domestic violence advocate.
 
As always, please keep comments related to this post and maintain a respectful tone. We look forward to continuing this dialogue with you. Also feel free to leave any additional questions, comments or concerns that may not have been covered here.
 
Thank you Barry, and thank you ATW Readers!
 
Barry, Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM:
 
1) We focus on sexism because sexism is the cause of domestic violence.
 
Part of the problem is that sexism like other oppressions is often invisible particularly to those who receive unearned advantages which in the case of sexism are men. I think it is important to understand that what we mean by sexism is different than is usually understood in the rest of the world. Most people think of sexism as something extreme like a crude joke, sexual assault or the kind of things Rush Limbaugh would say. In reality a lot of sexism is subtle and unconscious. That means that good people engage in sexism.
 
I was just talking last night in class about my experience as a new instructor and watching other new instructors since then. Inevitably a new male instructor will say or do something that is sexist and someone will tell them that it is offensive. Every new instruct has reacted by trying to say that we misunderstood or let me rephrase, but we ask them to be silent and listen and try to figure out why they were told it was sexist because it almost certainly was. The same process occurs when we speak of racism, heterosexism and other oppressions.
 
It is of course hard to hear that I said something sexist, racist, offensive, etc but in reality someone being willing to tell us this is giving us a valuable gift. It is difficult and often unsafe for someone from a marginalized group, like women when we speak about sexism to tell someone they did something offensive. Accordingly we need to make them feel safe to do so. Otherwise no one will tell us when we offended. When I say safe it means more than just not assaulting or threatening them, but being open to what they are saying, promising to change and not being defensive. I think too many people are quick to take offense when someone shares how their behavior has impacted them.
 
2) One of the places I want to take this discussion is to understand that in our society there is a huge difference between men and women, the privileges we have and how we are perceived. That is the context for everything that happens.
 
Too often courts and others seek to create a false sense of equivalency between men and women and this favors men because they have so many advantages in this society. Very often situations that seem the same on the surface are really very different.
 
Lynn Hecht Schafran wrote a wonderful article called Evaluating the Evaluators that illustrates how gender bias works in the courts. She tells the story of a new psychologist who is assigned to evaluate a young family. She goes to the father’s home and it is a complete mess with no food in the refrigerator. The evaluator writes that the father lives in a typical bachelor apartment. When she visits the mother’s home it is somewhat messy but not as bad as the father’s. She has food in the refrigerator but not as much as preferred. The evaluator writes the mother lives in a messy apartment with inadequate food. The evaluator has a supervisor because she was new and the supervisor asked if she saw what she had done. She was shocked at the gender biased approach she used and quickly corrected her report. I love this story because it shows how easy it is for someone acting in total good faith, and even a woman (by a process called internalized sexism) would engage in gender bias. So many of our assumptions are automatically colored by stereotypes so that the many gender bias committees appointed by courts have found that women are given a higher standard than men.
 
Periodically we will see news articles based on deeply flawed studies that suggest women abuse men almost as often as men abuse women. This is based on bad practices such as just counting the hits and a failure to understand dv dynamics. We often see cases where a man hits a woman, woman hits a man and it is treated the same, but there are three important differences. In general men are bigger and stronger, hit harder and cause more serious injuries. The second is that men hit women to maintain control and coerce compliance while women hit men in self-defense and to make him stop his abuse. Most important it is very common for women to be afraid of their male partner, afraid he will kill or seriously hurt her so that she will given in, do whatever she thinks he wants, let him make the decision. It virtually never happens that the man is so afraid of his female partner, that she will kill or seriously hurt him that he does whatever he thinks she wants. Nevertheless, court professionals with no understanding of dv dynamics often treat these situations as if they were mutual.
 
I will stop here and gauge your reaction and then we can continue. Hope you will find this useful.
 
Barry  

Bill Windsor on A.T.W’s post : “Barry Goldstein on the Mother’s Movement & Abusers”

RE: ATW has recently been in contact with Barry Goldstein, when we sent him and other professionals, a link introducing the blog, and inviting comments.

Barry has been very candid in sharing his thoughts about the Mother’s Movement and how it should proceed. One of the things Barry mentioned was creating a Protective Mothers Manifesto, to offer guidelines on ethical behavior for those within the Mother’s Movement.

ATW has received Barry’s permission to post his e-mail in full, as long as we agree not to edit, take out of context, or change the content in any way. In the interest of truth and accuracy, we also ask our readers to respect Barry’s wishes. We welcome reader’s comments please keep in mind ATW’s policy keeping all comments respectful.

Thank-you for Barry for your valuable feedback, and contributions.

– Among the Wolves

Read A.T.W’s Post from Barry in it’s entirety;
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/barry-goldstein-may-2013/

Bill Windsor comments on Barry Goldstein’s Post:

“In my opinion, Barry Goldstein is incompetent and should be ignored by anyone with intelligence in the world of family courts, abuse, and domestic violence.

For starters, I have to question the intelligence, or lack thereof, of anyone who would defend or support the criminals with the so-called American Mothers Political Party.

Goldstein has made scurrilous comments about me, but he doesn’t know me, doesn’t know a thing about me, has never spoken with me (and never will), and should have been smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

Goldstein claims I don’t understand the gendered nature of “the problems we are dealing with.” How utterly ridiculous. I fully understand the two primary genders. I know that men lie and lie and lie and use handbooks in divorce to ensure they take advantage of the mother of their children. It makes me sick. But I also know that women lie and lie and lie, pretend to be abused when they weren’t, pretend their children were abused when they weren’t, and will say and do anything to hurt their ex. Meanwhile, in both cases, the children are terribly abused by the process, and those with true stories get obscured by all the serial liars and abusers.

Should we consider Barry Goldstein to be similar to Richard Gardner?

When I became a part of the Lawless America project, I spent years learning from the women and men who claim they are victims, and I am closing in on 365 days on the road, face-to-face with thousands. I believe I have interviewed far more people than Goldstein will ever hope to interview. I was devastated to hear stories from women all across America….and then to learn that a number of these women lied. If they will lie about me (as some have), then I can’t possibly believe that they are telling the truth about anything else.

I do everything humanly possible to assist and support genuine protective mothers. But I will also do everything in my power to expose the liars and the lies.

I am about to decide that nothing meaningful will ever be done to correct the problems with family courts, abuse, and domestic violence because virtually all of the groups are haters. There are the father haters and the mother haters. Many who pretend to be for honesty and the children are often little more than actors. People with what they claim are “non-profit associations” are often in it just for the money.

I will not work with anyone who supports Barry Goldstein, the so-called American Mothers Political Party, Clodine Dumbrowski, Lorraine Tipton, Kimberly Wigglesworth, Kathleen Russell, the so-called Center for Judicial Excellence, Connie Valentine, the so-called California Protective Parents Association, or the so-called Battered Mothers Custody Conference. No one who has anything to do with these people or groups will be in our movies of videos because these people and groups support the twisted criminal activities of the AMPP folks. Many of these people and groups hate fathers and love liars.”

Barry Goldstein on the Mother’s Movement & Abusers

ATW has recently been in contact with Barry Goldstein, when we sent him and other professionals, a link introducing the blog, and inviting comments.

Barry has been very candid in sharing his thoughts about the Mother’s Movement and how it should proceed. One of the things Barry mentioned was creating a Protective Mothers Manifesto, to offer guidelines on ethical behavior for those within the Mother’s Movement.

ATW has received Barry’s permission to post his e-mail in full, as long as we agree not to edit, take out of context, or change the content in any way. In the interest of truth and accuracy, we also ask our readers to respect Barry’s wishes. We welcome reader’s comments please keep in mind ATW’s policy keeping all comments respectful.

Thank-you for Barry for your valuable feedback, and contributions.

— Among the Wolves

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Barry Goldstein:

My interest in creating a protective mother manifesto is to express our beliefs, help to unite those working to reform the broken custody court system and to avoid the kind of personal attacks you reference. I certainly agree that some of my friends who are protective mothers have acted improperly. I hope that we can stop this so that it will be safer for all protective mothers as they already face too many dangers and obstacles.

From my perspective context is extremely important in understanding these issues. Too often we create a false equivalency between people and groups that do not have equal privileges and opportunities. We live in a sexist society in which men receive substantial unearned privileges even if we are not always aware of this. There is a lot of bad research that suggests women abuse men about as often as men abuse women. This is based on deeply flawed practices and one of the things they miss is that women are often so afraid of their partners, afraid they will kill or seriously harm them that they will do whatever they think he wants and let him make the decisions just so he will not hurt them. The reverse is rarely true. This means that many actions that seem the same on the surface are really very different because of the inherent power that men have. This is one of the reasons I believe the behavior and threats by Bill Windsor are so much worse and of more concern.

There is a fundamental difference when something is done by someone in a position of privilege and power in our society then when it is done by someone who lacks these privileges. In this context, I believe women can be assaultive, disrespectful and totally inappropriate but I would not use a term like abuser or domestic violence for what they do because they do not have the same power that men have. I believe we need to keep the context in mind.

I am particularly concerned that protective mothers who are on both sides of this present dispute have gone through horrific experiences and this continues to impact them. This is an important reason why they should be treated with the utmost respect and we must avoid acting in ways that could be frightening. To the extent that the improper behavior was directed at protective mothers it makes it all the more unacceptable. At the same time it is common that victims of domestic violence often act out in inappropriate ways as a result of his abuse. One of the big problems is that court professionals often fail to understand this and severely punish mothers for actions that are normal under the circumstances.

I know enough about some of the cases of the protective mothers who I agree acted improperly to know they are genuine victims of the broken court system and sincerely want to create the reforms we all favor. That is why my goal is to modify the unacceptable behavior and keep them as part of our movement. They have also made many valuable contributions to our work. I still believe we can respond in a way that their involvement can be salvaged in a way that is win-win for our movement.

I am far more concerned about the actions of Bill Windsor. He never seemed to have understood the gendered nature of the problems we are dealing with. When I became a part of this movement and before that the battered women’s movement, I spent a lot of time learning from the women who are the leaders and confronting my unearned privileges and sexist beliefs. I learned the importance of taking leadership from women. Bill Windsor does not seem to have ever gone through this process and instead used his male privilege to engage in completely inappropriate attacks on genuine protective mothers. He raised tremendous hopes in many protective mothers but it appears he does not get it and his reaction to criticism is beyond inappropriate.

I think it is important that we keep our eyes on the ball. Unfortunately this dispute has been a distraction. The important thing is to reform the broken system that hurts so many children. I believe the women who made inappropriate personal attacks can contribute to the goal, but need to stop the attacks. Obviously this is a difficult issue and like most issues involved with domestic violence we are confronted with what is the least harmful response.

What will Battered Mothers Custody Conference Do When Confronted with Truth?????

The A.T.W team of researchers and writers have worked long and hard to root out the truth about certain victim rights advocates to expose liars and abusers within victim advocacy organizations.Our intention is to prevent the honest mother – truly being victimized by family court- from being re- victimized, saving herself and her children from experiencing even more pain and heartache.

We call these abusive advocates “wolves in sheep’s clothing.”

We back up our findings with documented proof in the form of public police reports, public court documents, and various screen shots in our subjects’own words.
(See A.T.W.’s Intention and Purpose: https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/mission-among-the-wolves/)

Our research has uncovered some disturbing information

American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) and it’s co-founders Claudine Dombrowski and Lorraine Tipton have spread numerous libel around the internet bashing certain mother rights’ leaders and professionals. To date we count 12+ different sites attached to AMPP spewing their hate and vile lies.

See:

California Protective Parents (CPPA) and their leader Connie Valentine Supports Hate Group (examples of online attacks, libel, & complaints against AMPP)

https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/cppa-supports-hate-group-2/

Center for Judicial Excellence( CJE) and their leader Kathleen Russell Reportedly “Share Same Values” and “Work Very Closely Together” with AMPP:

Lorraine Tipton on the BMCC (the steely cold side of mother’s rights unmasked and unedited)
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/lorraine-tipton-bmcc/

Lorraine Tipton/Rainy68 Hate Video

Claudine Dombrowski & the BMCC: Abuser in the Spotlight https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/abuser-in-the-spotlight/

According to Claudine: “So simply put. “Advocates are the same slough of people who have personal agendas – usually none care at all about the victims…I am not an advocate.”
http://janicelevinson.blogspot.com/2013_04_01_archive.html

ATW exposes these individuals catching them in their lies and revealing the abusers that they are. Although our blog has become wildly popular and has many hits in a short amount of time, we are puzzled by the reaction of some other advocates and professionals within the victim advocacy movement.

ATW has posted the link to our blog around Facebook and on other internet blogs in order to unveil the truth- backed up with proof-about these “wolves in sheep’s clothing”.

Twice ATW posted a link to our blog on a well known professional’s Facebook wall and twice our link was removed.( we have the screen shots to prove it). ATW also posted a link on the BMCC facebook event wall and this was also removed. We ask why is this???

Let us be clear; A.T.W respects these professionals and the work that they do, but we are perplexed with their reluctance to stand up for the truth in this matter. Yet they call others to action and motivate them to stand up for the truth and expose family court corruption. Isn’t their mission to advocate for the truth, and give it a voice? Isn’t their mission to advocate against abuse and abusers?

One of the organizations and professionals being bashed is PMA and Lundy Bancroft. The advocates, leaders and professionals within the victim advocacy movement all have stated many times that they respect and admire Lundy Bancroft. Why won’t any of these professionals and advocates defend Lundy Bancroft and help reveal the truth? Why was our link removed?

See:
AMPP Attack Mothers Wage War-Blitzkreig PMA, Lundy & Janice (Examples of harassment, libel and false accusations made by AMPP against PMA. AMPP wages “war”, states Janice Levinson’s phone number will be written in “various bathroom stalls in Florida” and attacks against Lundy Bancroft including
that he is (quote) ” all around a-hole of the whole ‘mothers rights’ movement. “)

https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/ampp-wage-war-pma

Lawless America and Bill Windsor is another organization and advocate under attack. The relentless, ridiculous lies, and death threats from AMPP and “allies” have resulted in family stressors for Bill. He is not allowed to see his grandchildren due to the families’ fear of the actions of AMPP and other bullies. You may not agree philosophically with Bill, but he does not deserve this abuse-no one does.

See
Truth on Trial: Bill Windsor Has His Day in Court (Vicious attacks and lies bring Windsor into court to face his accusers. The accusers plan their victory over Windsor, even fantasizing that Windsor will be raped in a prison shower. Claudine and Lorraine openly supports these abusive bullies, and has joined their page–as well as other members of AMPP)
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/bill-windsor-in-court/

Bill Windsor: I fear for my safety and the safety of my family
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/windsor-fear-for-safety/

Claudine Dombrowski: Holocaust Hypocrite (Includes list of hate sites attacking Bill Windsor and PMA, and calling both a Nazi and worse..)
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/claudine-holocaust-hypocrite/

So this begs the question. Why? Why the silence from those who can help stop this atrocious, criminal behavior from AMPP and allies.

Claudine Dombrowski (direct quote) “Sue me you fucking freek. I dare you, to bring that fat ass to to the land of OZ. You will need a lot more than target lessons to take me on. You will need an ENTIRE army.” https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/claudine-dombrowski-wizard-fantasy/

Why do intelligent professionals continue to support these abusers? Why would any reasonable, intelligent professional and leader knowingly continue to have their name attached to such criminal behavior.

Why?????

A.T.W’s intention and purpose; A response to a readers’ comment

We have recently received a comment by a reader, questioning A.T.W’s intention and motive for this blog. It was implied that we were “trashing” moms. In the interest of truth, transparency and clarity, we have decided to post our response to reinforce for all our readers A.T.W’s intention and purpose. The readers’ comment may be found on our home page.

A.T.W’s response:

We thank this reader for her comment.

We at A.T.W are very well aware of the problems faced by moms along with the dynamics of family court and D.V victims. We are also aware of abuse-by-proxy and the damage caused by this type of abuse. We understand many changes need to be made in family court in order to protect the children and their mothers. We take great pains to thoroughly research documented proof before we post information. We post proof in the form of official public court documents, public police records or screen shots that show a statement made in our subject’s own words.We also note sequence of events to further stay true to the truth as we do not want to take an event out of context,which might be confusing and deceiving. We present the truth with proof to back it up and let the reader decide. We are not gender bias. Just because a advocate/ mom says something, does not make it so. Occasionally, a self-proclaimed victim’s advocate and DV “expert” is really an abuser and bully in disguise. We are not blind to the truth, backed up with documented proof because of a person’s gender. We research and provide the proof. We are simply seeking the truth ,regardless of gender, and presenting the documented proof to the readers.
This is not cyber- bullying,or “trashing”- this is factual reporting. In fact some moms exposed on our site have been cyber- bullying innocent victims ( including other moms) in the most vicious ways, on various internet sites for many years.

We specifically stated we do not necessarily endorse other sites referenced, that post similar information on matters A.T.W has researched see below:

“Examples of some collateral information that was made public before this blog was published, this is presented in the interest of truth; these are not endorsements of any kind.”

Although our research did back up the raw facts posted on these sites.

The reader stated:
..”leaves many women wondering exactly what purpose Among The Wolves serves.”

Our purpose is to expose liars and abusers within victim advocacy organizations. Sadly some mothers’ are abusers, some mothers’ misrepresent themselves, some mothers suffer from personality disorders. Again we are not gender bias. Hopefully our blog will protect the honest ,sincere mother from seeking counsel from a fake advocate/ abuser mother, who may potentially hurt her , her case, and therefore her children . Our intention is to prevent the honest mother – truly being victimized by family court- from being re- victimized, saving herself and her children from experiencing even more pain and heartache.
A.T.W

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill

AMPP, Joeys and Dragons… Oh My!

Claudine must have worked her black magic to put Brannon Bridge up to this bizarre video titled, “I have a message for Bill Windsor + DragonGuards”.

In “Dragon Guards” you will see Brannon hovering in a dark basement, rambling about dragons while he is desperately searching for his cigarettes and lighters, and mumbling about Bill Windsor. Included in this video is treasured “dragon porn” from Dungeons & Dragons. Sources say Brannon is a 29 year old that lives in his parent’s basement (this has not been confirmed but it does appear to be a “dragon’s lair” rather than a basement!)

 

According Brannon, “I have protection in case Bill tries to stalk my house.”

Brannon says, the dragons, “They fly over my house.”

And, “You don’t see them in the daytime,they are good at blending..They’re up there, they’re just chillin’.”

 

This must be Brannon’s message for Bill Windsor, “This is an f- warning, don’t come near me like you did Allie..Bill, make sure we have an understanding, I have six f- dragons.”

 

You gotta be careful ‘cuz  Brannon says,”Sometimes he burns me (the dragon)” And “They spit fire.”

 

In case you don’t know what a dragon is Brannon conducts a brief educational demonstration, taught no doubt by Professor Tiny. With a “whoosh!” Brannon flaps his arms like a dragon. In the corner of one screen shot, is an evil looking woman in a medieval bustier bra who must be the wicked witch Claudine Dombrowski…or ??

 

Former domestic violence “advocate”, and CEO/co-founder of American Mothers Political Party (AMPP), Claudine Dombrowski has offered her support to the Joeys and posted their links all over her website, as well as posted on the Joeys bullying blog/FB pages whose only purpose is to make fun of people. For someone who claims to be fighting against abuse, Claudine’s involvement with the Joeys is hypocritical—considering she is promoting and participating in various forms of abuse!

 

Not only that but Claudine claims on her various promotions that she is a domestic violence advocate but now denies she is an “advocate” because according to Claudine “Advocates are the same slough of people who have personal agendas – usually none care at all about the victims.That Claudine identifies with the abuser and attacks those who try to help victims should be concerning to anyone involved with or supporting AMPP .. or maybe they don’t see the “dragons” because “they blend in”?

 

 

CPPA Supports Hate Group

Why is CPPA supporting American Mothers Political Party, a known hate group?

California Protective Parents Association (CPPA) is an advocacy organization for abused women and children, and their battles for justice in family court. CPPA is based in California, their leader is Connie Valentine.

When you go to the CPPA website and click on “ACTION”
One of the recommended steps CPPA suggests to (direct quote) ,”Please join us in taking action to improve and reform family court..”
below that is a suggestion (direct quote), “to Join the American Mother’s Political Party”. It includes a link that connects directly to AMPP.

CPPA is pointing these vulnerable, protective moms to the potential threat of being re-victimized once again by Claudine Dombrowski, and AMPP.

SO what makes AMPP a hate group?

1) Our research has revealed that CPPA along with other organizations and professionals behind the Battered Mother’s Custody Conference (BMCC) have been aware for several years about AMPP’s vicious attacks against Protective Mother’s Alliance International(PMA). PMA International is an advocacy organization co-founded by Lundy Bancroft and Janice Levinson, and is a leading international organization within the mothers’ movement. AMPP’s attacks on PMA have continued for many years, with the full knowledge of the BMCC and their related organizations! The attacks have recently escalated, as A.T.W. has shown, with AMPP declaring war on PMA, attempting to discredit Lundy Bancroft and launching several hate filled website targeted at PMA, as well as engaging in verbally abusive attacks across the internet.

* Janice Levinson comments about the AMPP attacks and harassment on the Venture Philosophy blog
Janice LevinsonFebruary 10, 2013 at 12:14 PM, “AMPP has attacked my organization, Protective Mothers’ Alliance International, myself and Lundy Bancroft (our co founder) on and off for years. Please understand I am a protective mom, so we are supposed to be on the same team as AMPP. But no, they even attack their own team members….
AMPP called Lundy a fraud and part of the extreme fathers rights movement. Both of which is such a lie and laughable. They spread slander all over the internet about PMA and myself saying such lies as; We are dangerous,we put mothers personal info out on the net, we charge fees to join PMA and so much more. All lies . All baseless allegations They went so far as to contact our leaders via email saying as such in an attempt to put or organization out of business. They did not succeed, yet oddly, they keep trying to join us and stalk us on Face Book repeatedly by trying to join all our groups and sometimes creating new profiles under different names to do so.
My life was threatened right before a Battered Mothers Custody Conference where the slander continued as Claudine D. told several participates at this conference not to bother listening to Lundy and my speech, as we were both frauds. Our original Face book page was hi-jacked by Lorraine Tipton and Cara Wilson who then open the flood gates allowing Claudine and other AMPP ers in and forcing me out. They started a Face Book group with vulgar titles that had Lundy’s picture on the profile . One group had Lundy’s face on a sock puppet and was titled ” will the real Lundy Bancroft please stand up?” The other group’s title was too vulgar for me to even mention, but also had Lundy’s picture. I was successful in getting Face book to tear these down as even they could see how bad the bullying was by the title and content of these groups. They have done so much more to even post here, but this will give you a good idea of what they do to fellow protective mothers…” (Full comment below)

There’s more …
** AnonymousFebruary 11, 2013 at 8:40 PM
“I have personally seen the nasty attack of PMA by this hate group. I take offense to those mothers and professionals in the mothers movement who stayed silent on this issue and stood by while PMA, Janice and Lundy were being attacked. I am a PMA leader and PMA is a group that has really helped me and many others. Janice and Lundy are loving , kind and tireless advocates for the cause. I would join no other mothers group as no one holds such professional standards and healthy boundaries against abuse within as PMA. They even have a small security team to protect us moms..” (<– A.T.W. note, sounds like they need a security team with the Attack Mothers and their Flying Monkeys on the loose!)

*** NaomiJanuary 9, 2013 at 8:18 PM
"Bill and Claudine,
AMPP is most certainly a hate group. They are stalkers, trolls, and hate men. I would never join forces with a radical feminist group or MRA group.
I could care less where their hearts are. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
.(American Mothers Political Party is a Hate Group. 1/4/2013. http://venturephilosophy.blogspot.com/2013/01/american-mothers-political-party-is.html)

2) Claudine Dombrowski, co-founder of AMPP, has created a hate-filled website attacking Janice Levinson, co-founder of PMA, and was brazen enough to send us proof of her handiwork.

Claudine Dombrowski Creates Hateful Website

Claudine has stolen art from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, and displayed it on the front of her BIZARRE web site with its abusive & outrageous false allegations that include:
*Bill Windsor and Janice Levinson are (direct quote) “Hitler sympathizers”
*Janice Levinson is an (direct quote) “evil bitch”
* Janice Levinson will (direct quote) “mercilessly slaughter you and your children”

Claudine, remember this?

Clearly, something is seriously wrong with Claudine–and her actions are no different than that of an abuser. How can California Protective Parents, Battered Mothers’ Custody Conference (BMCC), and the Mother’s Movement as a whole stand by and do nothing!!!??? AMPP’s abuse is being committed right in their midst–and under the guise, as CPPA claims, of “taking action to improve and reform family court”. If the Mother’s Movement and BMCC is not willing to take action to deal with abuse that is happening in their own ranks, how can they effectively deal with abuse reported by protective moms, and abuse in the family courts!??? How can the Mother’s Movement and BMCC demand reform when their own way of dealing with abuse involves silence and denial????

3) AMPP has launched attacks against anyone who voices a contrary opinion or expresses concern about AMPP, and has encouraged online bullying and group attacks to intimidate and control people, including other protective moms.

* Anonymous February 5, 2013 at 6:38 PM
I am being attacked by AMPP because I defended Bill Windsor and Lawless America. This is their tactic: use your name online to draw you into their site. You comment to defend yourself. AMPP members are then called to ambush you with lies, threats, swearing, false allegations. AMPP tries to intimidate & shame people into submission, they are abusers..I hope Bill presses charges. These women are abusers of the worst kind.
(Comment from: Anti-father bigot group trying to boycott Lawless America. 1/1/2013. http://venturephilosophy.blogspot.com/2013/01/anti-father-misandrist-group-trying-to.html)

4) AMPP supports the Joeys blog and participates in online attacks together. The Joeys blog is a vulgar, hateful blog known for its attacks and slander–this is NOT the group a so-called domestic violence advocate like Claudine, and AMPP, should be supporting!

Knowing this -as they do- how can California Protective Parents Association (CPPA) not only support AMPP but recruit members for this hate group? How can others in the Mother’s Movement and BMCC stay silent on this important issue as abusers work within their movement and related organizations? How can any protective mom truly feel safe?

MORE:

Naomi Chambers video “American Political Party is a Hate Group”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPWxEjUnOe0

Full text of comments from Janice Levinson, PMA, posted to the Venture Philosophy blog:
Janice LevinsonFebruary 10, 2013 at 12:14 PM
“AMPP has attacked my organization, Protective Mothers’ AllianceInternational, myself and Lundy Bancroft (our co founder) on and off for years. Please understand I am a protective mom, so we are supposed to be on the same team as AMPP. But no, they even attack their own
team members.

Lundy Bancroft is the author of several books about family court corruption and has appeared in court cases as an expert witness. He has trained and educated judges on the dynamics of DV in family court and is very well respected in the family court reform movement speaking around the world at various conferences. His first book ” Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men” is widely considered bible- like in it’s truth an insights about abusers.

AMPP called Lundy a fraud and part of the extreme fathers
rights movement. Both of which is such a lie and laughable. They spread slander all over the internet about PMA and myself saying such lies as; We are dangerous,we put mothers personal info out on the net, we charge fees to join PMA and so much more. All lies . All baseless
allegations They went so far as to contact our leaders via email saying as such in an attempt to put or organization out of business. They did not succeed, yet oddly, they keep trying to join us and stalk us on Face Book repeatedly by trying to join all our groups and
sometimes creating new profiles under different names to do so.

We established a PMA no abuse zone and posted it on our website because of these attacks and also to protect our moms from their abuse. We are constantly approached by them and others wanting AMPP to work with PMA. When I refuse, another attack of lies begins with them saying
PMA does not want to work with other orgs. I tell them not true, since PMA does work with other orgs but PMA does not work with abusers,no matter their gender. My life was threatened right before a Battered Mothers Custody Conference where the slander continued as Claudine D. told several participates at this conference not to bother listening to Lundy and my speech, as we were both frauds. Our original Face book page was hi-jacked by Lorraine Tipton and Cara Wilson who then open the flood gates allowing Claudine and other AMPP ers in and forcing me out. They started a Face Book group with vulgar titles that had Lundy’s picture on the profile . One group had Lundy’s face on a sock puppet and was titled ” will the real Lundy Bancroft please stand up?” The other group’s title was too vulgar for me to even mention, but also had Lundy’s picture. I was successful in getting Face book to tear these down as even they could see how bad the bullying was by the title and content of these groups. They have done so much more to even post here, but this will give you a good idea of what they do to fellow protective mothers.

So, AMPP is at it again, making us protective moms look bad. Please know they do not represent most protective mothers . . My feelings are, regardless how you feel about an organization it’s leader, philosophies, practices ect. it is never ok to abuse. Their is no excuse for their behavior. No excuse for abuse, especially in a movement that is fighting abuse. Kudos to Lundy for being one of the few in the mothers movement willing to stand up for the truth and stand up to their abuse.He is truly a man of character and will always have my total respect. Kudos to Bill for doing the same. In a movementfighting corruption and abuse, their is no room for abusers , no matter their gender.”

–Janice Levinson
Protective Mothers’ Alliance International
Executive Director/co-founder
(American Mothers Political Party is a Hate Group. 1/4/2013. http://venturephilosophy.blogspot.com/2013/01/american-mothers-political-party-is.html)

Is there really a “war” in the Mother’s Movement?

In our commitment to the truth, A.T.W. researched the web pages and FB pages of some of the leaders in the Mother’s Movement to determine if a “war”really exists within the Mother’s Movement, hindering the progress to fight for meaningful family court reform.

To answer this question, we researched several organizations and professionals FB pages, and websites. Below you will see a sample of the posts that are representative of these groups and professionals’ work. You will notice a level of professionalism that is clearly missing from AMPP, and can compare for yourself the differences. You will see that AMPP stands alone. No other organization is waging war on other groups. No other organization is resorting to crude online videos and harassment to mock other organizations or their members. No other organization is attempting to discredit and humiliate other organizations/individuals. No other organization is actively bullying–period. Clearly this is a one sided war, and not reciprocal.

A war is a mutual event, where both sides attack each other. We see no evidence of counter attacks. WE see bullying and abusers attacking chosen targets to push their agendas forward.

Take a look at a sample of screenshots we found in our research

A screenshot of Lorraine Tipton, AMPP, declaring war:
AMPP Declares War

AMPP declaring war

Anonymous, an attack bully from the Joey’s website, intentionally hiding their identity as bullies do to avoid consequences for their abusive behavior:

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COMPARE THAT TO:

California Protective Parents Association (CPPA)

Lundy Bancroft, an example of his work, conducting a workshop for victims healing from abuse followed by comments from people who have attended. The second shot is firsthand experiences of Bancroft’s work and commitment to helping abused women and children.

Eileen King

Mothers of Lost Children FB page

Protective Mothers Alliance (PMA) No Abuse Zone:

CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? So we repeat: A.T.W is compelled to ask all within the Mothers’ Movement and the Battered Mothers Custody Conference(BMCC)
WHY ARE YOU STAYING SILENT!??

AMPP Attack Mothers Wage War – Blitzkrieg PMA, Lundy & Janice

You will see evidence that American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) has strategically, and systematically, organized their Flying Monkeys (aka supporters) to viciously attack Protective Mothers Alliance (PMA), Janice Levinson and astoundingly — Lundy Bancroft.

Keep in mind, AMPP is supposed to be part of the Mother’s Movement, and therefore, should be allies with PMA in the fight for family court reform. Lundy Bancroft is a respected leader in the fight for family court reform. Lundy is co-founder (along with Janice Levinson) of Protective Mothers’ Alliance International and has been a leader in the Mother’s Movement for decades. According to his online bio, Bancroft is an author, workshop leader, and consultant on domestic abuse and child maltreatment. He has worked with over a thousand abusers directly as an intervention counselor, and has served as clinical supervisor on another thousand cases. He has also served extensively as a custody evaluator, child abuse investigator, and expert witness in domestic violence and child abuse cases. Bancroft’s books ” Why Does He Do That? Inside The Minds Of Angry And Controlling Men” and “The Batterer as Parent” are considered as “bibles” in the Mother’s Movement. As you can see from this screenshot taken from the PMA page, it vows to be a “No Abuse Zone” (compare that to what AMPP is doing!)

A.T.W. has observed, and researched, that PMA is the ONLY organization in the Mother’s Movement that has stood up to, and took a stand against AMPP’s criminal activity and abuse. As a result, AMPP has escalated their attacks in retaliation. Below you will find a timeline supporting this.

Feb, 18, 2013 (Communication): After enduring vicious online attacks, cyber stalking and other forms of harassment and defamation, Bill Windsor of Lawless America, declares that American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) and their sister group Australian AMPP, are a hate group. He then blocks these groups (as best as he can, the members still make fake online profiles infiltrate, and stalk Windsor online).

Janice Levinson of Protective Mothers Alliance (PMA) responds that they have encountered similar problems with a member of Australian AMPP, who is using a fake name.
Direct Quote, “She is vicious and gave PMA, Lundy, and myself lots of problems too
. Bill please call me. Need to speak with you.”

Retaliation

The Attack Mothers at AMPP respond by waging an online blitzkrieg against PMA–making false allegations about PMA, Levinson and Bancroft. AMPP has attempted to discredit PMA and spread lies to confuse and frighten people from working with or joining PMA. AMPP has lied about its role in these attacks, and would like you to believe they actually support Bancroft, (a weak attempt at the old “divide and conquer” routine). You will see the truth here.

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Feb, 18, 2013, 11:35 pm: Mama Liberty aka Lorraine Tipton of AMPP declares war: (Direct Quote) “Lundy Bancroft’s mouthpiece, Janice Levinson, starting shit…ONCE AGAIN. YOU WANT WAR YOU GOT IT!”

Tipton also has been active on the Joeys blog.

AMPP Declares War

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Feb 19, 2013: Facebook
American Mothers Political Party
Lundy Bancroft’s mouthpiece, Janice Levinson, starting shit…ONCE AGAIN. YOU WANT WAR YOU GOT IT!
Like · · Share · 22 hours ago 7 people like this
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American Mothers Political Party BETTER yet call LUNDY xxx-xxx-xxx
21 hours ago · Like · 3

Elizabeth Hope Hernandez xxx-xxx-xxx This num will be found in various places..lol.lol. (Levinson’s phone number)
21 hours ago · Like · 3

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Karlie Maree Oh no! This is so sad and Childish. Lundy would not want his name associated with this I’m sure. Can I call that number from Australia?
19 hours ago via mobile · Like · 3

American Mothers Political Party I would not be surprised to find it various bathroom stalls in Fla even before it was posted on here.
19 hours ago · Like · 2

American Mothers Political Party Karlie Maree sadly Lundy is strongly associated
17 hours ago · Like · 2

Helen-Grace White janice is anti ampp because they know what she is– they know how they victim harvest – and thats what she does– they want mom’s information – then they can blackmail you later (<–ATW NOTE There is NO victim statements, no physical evidence, no police reports, no complaints whatsoever, nothing to support this outrageous lie)
16 hours ago · Like · 4

(More outrageous, unfounded lies and personal attacks on Levinson)

Kristi Jarrett Lundy Bancroft is one of the bad guys? Oh God….say it isn’t so! I thought he was an advocate.
13 hours ago via mobile · Like · 3

Truth about extreme Father Right’s groups Lundy is a great man, and I only heard AMPP said good thing about him…. it is Janice she uses people and lies ….. she is uses Lundy good name, to hurt people( <– ATW NOTE; AGAIN no proof of these allegations are ever offered. Clearly this is more criminal libel and character assassination by AMPP and their flying monkeys)
13 hours ago · Like · 1

AND

Truth about extreme Father Right’s groups just called Lundy and left a message for him about Janice supporting Bill Windsor that has lead to women getting death threat and rape threat and how bill supprt a Domestic terrorist group….he will get the mess feb/26….. when he is back in the office.….. IF HE CALL ME BACK, I will tell him how they screw over Keith, killing his help that has done a lot of good for PM in CT
12 hours ago · Like · 3

Karlie Maree I imagine he’s now stuck between a rock and a hard place
9 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2

American Mothers Political Party I used to thought he was a good guy too. USED TO. Trust us more is to come...
9 hours ago · Like · 3

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Feb 20, 2013, 12:03 pm: Levinson and Bancroft are attacked on the Joey blog by an anonymous commentor using personal attacks, profanity and hate speech of the worst kind. The Joey Blog is frequent by AMPP leaders and supporters, and prominently featured on Claudine Dombrowski’s many blogs. We strongly suspect this comment was left by Lorraine Tipton.

(Direct Quote) “Some may not know whom Janice Levinson is, the newest little minion and co-conspirator to Pie Boy. But you may have heard of Lundy Bancroft?

Bancroft is an author, public speaker, retreat doer upper, sweater vest wearing, sock puppet and all around a-hole of the whole ‘mothers rights’ movement. Oh yah, and he is also writing a ‘screen play’ and starting his own religion.”

Lundy Bancroft Attacked on Joey Site - Is anyone standing up to defend him?

(Direct Quote) Ninja February 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Anon 12:03 said Lundy Bancroft wants to start his own religion. So, perhaps that is why he supports LA and allows Janice to run around throwing people under the bus. Once Bully takes over the US with his new cult, Lundy is going to be the religious leader and Janice will be one of his wives. (finally)

This whole thing just gets sicker and sicker.

Meanwhile, all the whistleblowers outing the pie man are under fire.

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Feb 20, 2013: A petition is created called “Remove Janice Levinson from Protective Mothers Alliances” that includes more unsubstantiated allegations and attempts to spread rumors to discredit PMA.

It also says, “Since then, Janice Levinson, co-founder/executive director of PMA has aligned with “Lawless America” and has continued on re-victimizing battered mothers while Lundy Bancroft looks the other way or perhaps is not aware of the person in charge of his reputation and credibility is doing to ruin it.
WE DEMAND that Lundy Bancroft take action against the disgusting actions of Levinson and correct the hurts that have caused battered mothers to question WHY HE DOES THAT?

It is important to note that this harassing “petition” intended to remove Levinson from her position within PMA was derailed as PMA supporters,members,and leaders consumed this “petition” with a large show of respect and support for their leader. They were successful in shutting down the flying monkeys small collective voice of evil lies.

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The silence from the other organizations, advocates, and professionals in the “Mothers’ Movement” along with the Battered Mothers Custody Conference (BMCC) is deafening. How could anyone involved in a victim rights movement stand by in silence while fellow protective moms, advocates and respected professionals are being abused in this criminal fashion!??
What exactly IS the purpose of the Mothers’ Movement and BMCC??? Do they advocate against abuse…..or not?? Are they the voice of support, and justice for victim’s of abuse….or not?? These abusive attacks by AMPP and the flying monkeys towards PMA, Lundy, Janice, and others are ongoing, blatant and atrocious. A.T.W is compelled to ask all within the Mothers’ Movement, and the BMCC ; WHY ARE YOU STAYING SILENT!??

Since Feb, the attacks have escalated and continue to grow worse. Stay tuned as we at A.T.W. piece together this story, and expose the abusers!