LIE VS. FACT CHECK: Who is Gathering Information About the Mothers?

WHO IS GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT MOTHERS                                             AND CREATING A DATABASE??

 Lie vs. Fact Check Intro:

As we meander down this truth seeking path together, there are some lies so outrageous that you have to see it to believe it. We at A.T.W. are all for exposing the Lies vs. Fact Check.

This is how it will go:

1) We will quote the lie, and post the source it came from.
2) This will be immediately be followed by a quote of the facts, with proof

THE LIE:

Claudine Dombrowski, AMPP, has accused Bill Windsor of Lawless America of being connected to “Father’s Rights” and made accusations that he is creating a database to collect the information of abuse victims. Claudine has led her “Attack Mothers” aka supporters to harass, stalk, defame and threaten Bill Windsor.. as seen in this screenshot from Adrema Barbee Higgins.

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THE TRUTH:

Bill Windsor has previously issued a statement that he does not charge money to anyone appearing on Lawless America and he has created the documentary for a sincere purpose to help victims of government abuse and corruption,Lawless America does not charge a plug nickel for anything on our site or any help that we may be able to offer anyone.  I do all of this for no compensation of any type.  I do it out of the goodness of my heart — trying to battle corruption and help victims…”

Bill also explains that those appearing in “Lawless” are asked to provide basic contact information, and are voluntarily asked to provide that information as part of being in the film, this is a standard professional practice and is legally required,No one will be in the movie unless they provide their name, address phone number, email, and employment status. Anyone who takes the utterly ridiculous position that such information is identity theft needs mental help, in my opinion. These are people out to undermine this movie because the movie has the greatest chance of exposing the corruption and getting something done about it that any of us have yet seen... EVERYONE who appears in the movie will have to sign a release that allows us unlimited use of your likeness in promotion of the movie. Don’t sign the release, and you won’t be in the movie. This is a legal requirement that every movie must follow.”

See Full Statement of Bill Windsor on the “Lawless” movie release, and false accusations from Roxanne Grinage (Hire Lyrics): http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=798:roxanne-grinage-of-hirelyricsorg-is-the-latest-person-to-attempt-to-interfere-with-production-of-lawless-americathe-movie&catid=133:lawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105

The Truth: Claudine offers no evidence, documentation or other proof to substantiate this ridiculous claim, one of many lies she has waged against her (quote) “hit list“...she just wants you to take her word. And Claudine’s word so far has involved profanity, death threats, degrading comments about women and defamation. Clearly, Claudine’s word is not to be believed. 

Who’s the REAL Stalker?

 

The Truth: Claudine aka Petunia Pig has been gathering her own “database” to collect information about the mothers coming to her for help, and is giving the information to an un-named 3rd party. Claudine is doing exactly what she accuses others of doing!

2009, Petunia Pig on ‘Glenn’s Cult’ “I am in the process of cooperating with a fellow blogger in preparing the first ever of it kind database for abused and protective moms. This database will be in place to protect those women new to the family rights scene on the internet.” 

NOTE THE DATE AS 2009- WELL BEFORE BILL WINDSOR BEGAN HIS DOCUMENTARY

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is collecting information about protective mothers and creating a “database”. How well has Claudine protected these moms from “Father’s Rights”?

 

Who is the “fellow blogger” Claudine is working with??  

We know Claudine has joined forces with the cyberbullies at Joeyisalittlekid whose ranks include a man who allegedy talks to dragons, a man whose YouTube video suggests he has a drinking problem, a pedophile (or two), and people who have attacked other Protective Mothers and their Supporters

And other groups including..

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is again collecting names for her database, claiming to protect the mothers from “father’s rights”. But who is protecting the mothers from Claudine and AMPP?

 

WHERE, OH WHERE ARE THE “FATHER’s RIGHTS” GROUPS???

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg claims she has to protect the mothers from “father’s rights” groups…See here that this facebook page “Best Interest” is connected to We the People Family Preservation (WTP FP); J Guy F Babineau is one of the founders. We the People supports Father’s Rights, if you visit their website, there is a link to Glenn Sacks; THE Glenn Sacks of Claudine/Petunia’s attack blog–“Glenn’s Cult”.

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 In December 2012, We the People Family Preservation was accused of misappropriating the confidential database of “Lawless America”–which means they have gained access to sensitive information about abused women and protective mothers. Claudine/Petunia was made aware of this in the Best Interest group. This is the exact database Claudine herself had been trying to gain access to. Is it a coincidence that Claudine has NEVER raised concern about We The People and never confronted WTP to protect the Mothers who may have been affected? Why isn’t Claudine doing anything to hold We the People accountable for stealing the information of the mothers?

We the People Family Preservation is connected to Roxanne Grinage, who was a keynote speaker at one of their events. Roxanne has attacked Bill Windsor and “Lawless America”  with various lies and allegations, which are hard to make sense of due to her delusional ramblings, as described in the above link.

Roxanne is connected to American Mothers Political Party, and Lorraine Tipton, and has subscribed to the vulgar videos AMPP posted about Bill on YouTube.

Roxanne was also promoted on the Joey’s blog (who are supporters of AMPP and they have joined forces in cyber bullying), where readers were encouraged to contact her,”NinjaMarch 7, 2103 at 10:01 pm   Whoever has the screen shots of Pie man asking for help finding personal information on people and their SS#s should send it to Roxanne.”

What does this mean? There is collusion between the various groups attacking Bill Windsor and “Lawless America” indicating these attacks are well planned, well coordinated and meant to attack Bill on various fronts with the intent to defame, intimidate, stalk, harass and ultimately shut down “Lawless” and with it, silence victims of government and family court abuse.

Sociopaths seek to “win” at any cost, defending themselves to the point of logical absurdity

A Summary of Facts…

1) Claudine is creating a database of the names and confidential information of abused women and protective moms, since at least 2009. Well before Bill Windsor, and “Lawless America” were in the picture.

2) Claudine says she needs this database to protect the mothers

3) Claudine won’t reveal her sources of who is working with her on this database

4) Claudine has openly denounced Father’s Rights groups and activists but at the same time is active, and posting on a page that connects to, and promotes Father’s Rights. And is working with a group that promotes Glenn Sacks, and links to his site from their own page.

5) Claudine is connected to a group that has “misappropriated” the confidential database of Bill Windsor. Instead of confronting those responsible, she attacks the victim–Bill. Instead of protecting those whose information is at risk, she supports the perpetrator.

6) If Claudine were truly protecting abused women and protective mothers, then why do her actions support those who are harming these same women?

If there is any doubt, ATW is posting another screen shot.. this was taken from a website that was promoted on the Best Interest Page, the same page Claudine/Petunia Pig is active on.

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Bill Windsor on A.T.W’s post : “Barry Goldstein on the Mother’s Movement & Abusers”

RE: ATW has recently been in contact with Barry Goldstein, when we sent him and other professionals, a link introducing the blog, and inviting comments.

Barry has been very candid in sharing his thoughts about the Mother’s Movement and how it should proceed. One of the things Barry mentioned was creating a Protective Mothers Manifesto, to offer guidelines on ethical behavior for those within the Mother’s Movement.

ATW has received Barry’s permission to post his e-mail in full, as long as we agree not to edit, take out of context, or change the content in any way. In the interest of truth and accuracy, we also ask our readers to respect Barry’s wishes. We welcome reader’s comments please keep in mind ATW’s policy keeping all comments respectful.

Thank-you for Barry for your valuable feedback, and contributions.

– Among the Wolves

Read A.T.W’s Post from Barry in it’s entirety;
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/barry-goldstein-may-2013/

Bill Windsor comments on Barry Goldstein’s Post:

“In my opinion, Barry Goldstein is incompetent and should be ignored by anyone with intelligence in the world of family courts, abuse, and domestic violence.

For starters, I have to question the intelligence, or lack thereof, of anyone who would defend or support the criminals with the so-called American Mothers Political Party.

Goldstein has made scurrilous comments about me, but he doesn’t know me, doesn’t know a thing about me, has never spoken with me (and never will), and should have been smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

Goldstein claims I don’t understand the gendered nature of “the problems we are dealing with.” How utterly ridiculous. I fully understand the two primary genders. I know that men lie and lie and lie and use handbooks in divorce to ensure they take advantage of the mother of their children. It makes me sick. But I also know that women lie and lie and lie, pretend to be abused when they weren’t, pretend their children were abused when they weren’t, and will say and do anything to hurt their ex. Meanwhile, in both cases, the children are terribly abused by the process, and those with true stories get obscured by all the serial liars and abusers.

Should we consider Barry Goldstein to be similar to Richard Gardner?

When I became a part of the Lawless America project, I spent years learning from the women and men who claim they are victims, and I am closing in on 365 days on the road, face-to-face with thousands. I believe I have interviewed far more people than Goldstein will ever hope to interview. I was devastated to hear stories from women all across America….and then to learn that a number of these women lied. If they will lie about me (as some have), then I can’t possibly believe that they are telling the truth about anything else.

I do everything humanly possible to assist and support genuine protective mothers. But I will also do everything in my power to expose the liars and the lies.

I am about to decide that nothing meaningful will ever be done to correct the problems with family courts, abuse, and domestic violence because virtually all of the groups are haters. There are the father haters and the mother haters. Many who pretend to be for honesty and the children are often little more than actors. People with what they claim are “non-profit associations” are often in it just for the money.

I will not work with anyone who supports Barry Goldstein, the so-called American Mothers Political Party, Clodine Dumbrowski, Lorraine Tipton, Kimberly Wigglesworth, Kathleen Russell, the so-called Center for Judicial Excellence, Connie Valentine, the so-called California Protective Parents Association, or the so-called Battered Mothers Custody Conference. No one who has anything to do with these people or groups will be in our movies of videos because these people and groups support the twisted criminal activities of the AMPP folks. Many of these people and groups hate fathers and love liars.”

What will Battered Mothers Custody Conference Do When Confronted with Truth?????

The A.T.W team of researchers and writers have worked long and hard to root out the truth about certain victim rights advocates to expose liars and abusers within victim advocacy organizations.Our intention is to prevent the honest mother – truly being victimized by family court- from being re- victimized, saving herself and her children from experiencing even more pain and heartache.

We call these abusive advocates “wolves in sheep’s clothing.”

We back up our findings with documented proof in the form of public police reports, public court documents, and various screen shots in our subjects’own words.
(See A.T.W.’s Intention and Purpose: https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/mission-among-the-wolves/)

Our research has uncovered some disturbing information

American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) and it’s co-founders Claudine Dombrowski and Lorraine Tipton have spread numerous libel around the internet bashing certain mother rights’ leaders and professionals. To date we count 12+ different sites attached to AMPP spewing their hate and vile lies.

See:

California Protective Parents (CPPA) and their leader Connie Valentine Supports Hate Group (examples of online attacks, libel, & complaints against AMPP)

https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/cppa-supports-hate-group-2/

Center for Judicial Excellence( CJE) and their leader Kathleen Russell Reportedly “Share Same Values” and “Work Very Closely Together” with AMPP:

Lorraine Tipton on the BMCC (the steely cold side of mother’s rights unmasked and unedited)
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/lorraine-tipton-bmcc/

Lorraine Tipton/Rainy68 Hate Video

Claudine Dombrowski & the BMCC: Abuser in the Spotlight https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/abuser-in-the-spotlight/

According to Claudine: “So simply put. “Advocates are the same slough of people who have personal agendas – usually none care at all about the victims…I am not an advocate.”
http://janicelevinson.blogspot.com/2013_04_01_archive.html

ATW exposes these individuals catching them in their lies and revealing the abusers that they are. Although our blog has become wildly popular and has many hits in a short amount of time, we are puzzled by the reaction of some other advocates and professionals within the victim advocacy movement.

ATW has posted the link to our blog around Facebook and on other internet blogs in order to unveil the truth- backed up with proof-about these “wolves in sheep’s clothing”.

Twice ATW posted a link to our blog on a well known professional’s Facebook wall and twice our link was removed.( we have the screen shots to prove it). ATW also posted a link on the BMCC facebook event wall and this was also removed. We ask why is this???

Let us be clear; A.T.W respects these professionals and the work that they do, but we are perplexed with their reluctance to stand up for the truth in this matter. Yet they call others to action and motivate them to stand up for the truth and expose family court corruption. Isn’t their mission to advocate for the truth, and give it a voice? Isn’t their mission to advocate against abuse and abusers?

One of the organizations and professionals being bashed is PMA and Lundy Bancroft. The advocates, leaders and professionals within the victim advocacy movement all have stated many times that they respect and admire Lundy Bancroft. Why won’t any of these professionals and advocates defend Lundy Bancroft and help reveal the truth? Why was our link removed?

See:
AMPP Attack Mothers Wage War-Blitzkreig PMA, Lundy & Janice (Examples of harassment, libel and false accusations made by AMPP against PMA. AMPP wages “war”, states Janice Levinson’s phone number will be written in “various bathroom stalls in Florida” and attacks against Lundy Bancroft including
that he is (quote) ” all around a-hole of the whole ‘mothers rights’ movement. “)

https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/ampp-wage-war-pma

Lawless America and Bill Windsor is another organization and advocate under attack. The relentless, ridiculous lies, and death threats from AMPP and “allies” have resulted in family stressors for Bill. He is not allowed to see his grandchildren due to the families’ fear of the actions of AMPP and other bullies. You may not agree philosophically with Bill, but he does not deserve this abuse-no one does.

See
Truth on Trial: Bill Windsor Has His Day in Court (Vicious attacks and lies bring Windsor into court to face his accusers. The accusers plan their victory over Windsor, even fantasizing that Windsor will be raped in a prison shower. Claudine and Lorraine openly supports these abusive bullies, and has joined their page–as well as other members of AMPP)
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/bill-windsor-in-court/

Bill Windsor: I fear for my safety and the safety of my family
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/windsor-fear-for-safety/

Claudine Dombrowski: Holocaust Hypocrite (Includes list of hate sites attacking Bill Windsor and PMA, and calling both a Nazi and worse..)
https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/claudine-holocaust-hypocrite/

So this begs the question. Why? Why the silence from those who can help stop this atrocious, criminal behavior from AMPP and allies.

Claudine Dombrowski (direct quote) “Sue me you fucking freek. I dare you, to bring that fat ass to to the land of OZ. You will need a lot more than target lessons to take me on. You will need an ENTIRE army.” https://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/claudine-dombrowski-wizard-fantasy/

Why do intelligent professionals continue to support these abusers? Why would any reasonable, intelligent professional and leader knowingly continue to have their name attached to such criminal behavior.

Why?????

A.T.W’s intention and purpose; A response to a readers’ comment

We have recently received a comment by a reader, questioning A.T.W’s intention and motive for this blog. It was implied that we were “trashing” moms. In the interest of truth, transparency and clarity, we have decided to post our response to reinforce for all our readers A.T.W’s intention and purpose. The readers’ comment may be found on our home page.

A.T.W’s response:

We thank this reader for her comment.

We at A.T.W are very well aware of the problems faced by moms along with the dynamics of family court and D.V victims. We are also aware of abuse-by-proxy and the damage caused by this type of abuse. We understand many changes need to be made in family court in order to protect the children and their mothers. We take great pains to thoroughly research documented proof before we post information. We post proof in the form of official public court documents, public police records or screen shots that show a statement made in our subject’s own words.We also note sequence of events to further stay true to the truth as we do not want to take an event out of context,which might be confusing and deceiving. We present the truth with proof to back it up and let the reader decide. We are not gender bias. Just because a advocate/ mom says something, does not make it so. Occasionally, a self-proclaimed victim’s advocate and DV “expert” is really an abuser and bully in disguise. We are not blind to the truth, backed up with documented proof because of a person’s gender. We research and provide the proof. We are simply seeking the truth ,regardless of gender, and presenting the documented proof to the readers.
This is not cyber- bullying,or “trashing”- this is factual reporting. In fact some moms exposed on our site have been cyber- bullying innocent victims ( including other moms) in the most vicious ways, on various internet sites for many years.

We specifically stated we do not necessarily endorse other sites referenced, that post similar information on matters A.T.W has researched see below:

“Examples of some collateral information that was made public before this blog was published, this is presented in the interest of truth; these are not endorsements of any kind.”

Although our research did back up the raw facts posted on these sites.

The reader stated:
..”leaves many women wondering exactly what purpose Among The Wolves serves.”

Our purpose is to expose liars and abusers within victim advocacy organizations. Sadly some mothers’ are abusers, some mothers’ misrepresent themselves, some mothers suffer from personality disorders. Again we are not gender bias. Hopefully our blog will protect the honest ,sincere mother from seeking counsel from a fake advocate/ abuser mother, who may potentially hurt her , her case, and therefore her children . Our intention is to prevent the honest mother – truly being victimized by family court- from being re- victimized, saving herself and her children from experiencing even more pain and heartache.
A.T.W

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill

So You Think You Can Dance Brannon!??

Once again A.T.W would like to take this opportunity to thank our many readers and supporters for their feedback and tips.

Recently we received another fascinating video created by Brannon . We were impressed once again by his creativity and style. Sadly we could not figure out the purpose of the video as the artist and creator ( Brannon) was crafty enough to leave it up to our imagination. Having no clues to go by A.T.W has decided to give it our best guess.

In light of this, A.T.W would like to introduce you to our new segment:: drumroll:: So You Think You Can Dance, Brannon??

Our judges have already carefully reviewed the videos sent in. Since the talent is exceptional, we have decided to let our readers choose the winner.

So here we go! Let the games begin!!

A.T.W will start with my personal favorite; Brannon (shhh) !!!

Now that would be hard to beat! Don’t you agree? Yet let’s try….

Whoa! Competition is getting tough! Here’s some more.

hummmmm Gotta love those taps and fancy footwork

Now let’s see someone who can really work the sticks!

This next one is really amazing!

A new twist on Gangnam Style

Well That’s our competition readers. Tough decision, we know. Props to the dancers. May the best dancer win!