LIE VS. FACT CHECK: Who is Gathering Information About the Mothers?

WHO IS GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT MOTHERS                                             AND CREATING A DATABASE??

 Lie vs. Fact Check Intro:

As we meander down this truth seeking path together, there are some lies so outrageous that you have to see it to believe it. We at A.T.W. are all for exposing the Lies vs. Fact Check.

This is how it will go:

1) We will quote the lie, and post the source it came from.
2) This will be immediately be followed by a quote of the facts, with proof

THE LIE:

Claudine Dombrowski, AMPP, has accused Bill Windsor of Lawless America of being connected to “Father’s Rights” and made accusations that he is creating a database to collect the information of abuse victims. Claudine has led her “Attack Mothers” aka supporters to harass, stalk, defame and threaten Bill Windsor.. as seen in this screenshot from Adrema Barbee Higgins.

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THE TRUTH:

Bill Windsor has previously issued a statement that he does not charge money to anyone appearing on Lawless America and he has created the documentary for a sincere purpose to help victims of government abuse and corruption,Lawless America does not charge a plug nickel for anything on our site or any help that we may be able to offer anyone.  I do all of this for no compensation of any type.  I do it out of the goodness of my heart — trying to battle corruption and help victims…”

Bill also explains that those appearing in “Lawless” are asked to provide basic contact information, and are voluntarily asked to provide that information as part of being in the film, this is a standard professional practice and is legally required,No one will be in the movie unless they provide their name, address phone number, email, and employment status. Anyone who takes the utterly ridiculous position that such information is identity theft needs mental help, in my opinion. These are people out to undermine this movie because the movie has the greatest chance of exposing the corruption and getting something done about it that any of us have yet seen... EVERYONE who appears in the movie will have to sign a release that allows us unlimited use of your likeness in promotion of the movie. Don’t sign the release, and you won’t be in the movie. This is a legal requirement that every movie must follow.”

See Full Statement of Bill Windsor on the “Lawless” movie release, and false accusations from Roxanne Grinage (Hire Lyrics): http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=798:roxanne-grinage-of-hirelyricsorg-is-the-latest-person-to-attempt-to-interfere-with-production-of-lawless-americathe-movie&catid=133:lawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105

The Truth: Claudine offers no evidence, documentation or other proof to substantiate this ridiculous claim, one of many lies she has waged against her (quote) “hit list“...she just wants you to take her word. And Claudine’s word so far has involved profanity, death threats, degrading comments about women and defamation. Clearly, Claudine’s word is not to be believed. 

Who’s the REAL Stalker?

 

The Truth: Claudine aka Petunia Pig has been gathering her own “database” to collect information about the mothers coming to her for help, and is giving the information to an un-named 3rd party. Claudine is doing exactly what she accuses others of doing!

2009, Petunia Pig on ‘Glenn’s Cult’ “I am in the process of cooperating with a fellow blogger in preparing the first ever of it kind database for abused and protective moms. This database will be in place to protect those women new to the family rights scene on the internet.” 

NOTE THE DATE AS 2009- WELL BEFORE BILL WINDSOR BEGAN HIS DOCUMENTARY

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is collecting information about protective mothers and creating a “database”. How well has Claudine protected these moms from “Father’s Rights”?

 

Who is the “fellow blogger” Claudine is working with??  

We know Claudine has joined forces with the cyberbullies at Joeyisalittlekid whose ranks include a man who allegedy talks to dragons, a man whose YouTube video suggests he has a drinking problem, a pedophile (or two), and people who have attacked other Protective Mothers and their Supporters

And other groups including..

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is again collecting names for her database, claiming to protect the mothers from “father’s rights”. But who is protecting the mothers from Claudine and AMPP?

 

WHERE, OH WHERE ARE THE “FATHER’s RIGHTS” GROUPS???

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg claims she has to protect the mothers from “father’s rights” groups…See here that this facebook page “Best Interest” is connected to We the People Family Preservation (WTP FP); J Guy F Babineau is one of the founders. We the People supports Father’s Rights, if you visit their website, there is a link to Glenn Sacks; THE Glenn Sacks of Claudine/Petunia’s attack blog–“Glenn’s Cult”.

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 In December 2012, We the People Family Preservation was accused of misappropriating the confidential database of “Lawless America”–which means they have gained access to sensitive information about abused women and protective mothers. Claudine/Petunia was made aware of this in the Best Interest group. This is the exact database Claudine herself had been trying to gain access to. Is it a coincidence that Claudine has NEVER raised concern about We The People and never confronted WTP to protect the Mothers who may have been affected? Why isn’t Claudine doing anything to hold We the People accountable for stealing the information of the mothers?

We the People Family Preservation is connected to Roxanne Grinage, who was a keynote speaker at one of their events. Roxanne has attacked Bill Windsor and “Lawless America”  with various lies and allegations, which are hard to make sense of due to her delusional ramblings, as described in the above link.

Roxanne is connected to American Mothers Political Party, and Lorraine Tipton, and has subscribed to the vulgar videos AMPP posted about Bill on YouTube.

Roxanne was also promoted on the Joey’s blog (who are supporters of AMPP and they have joined forces in cyber bullying), where readers were encouraged to contact her,”NinjaMarch 7, 2103 at 10:01 pm   Whoever has the screen shots of Pie man asking for help finding personal information on people and their SS#s should send it to Roxanne.”

What does this mean? There is collusion between the various groups attacking Bill Windsor and “Lawless America” indicating these attacks are well planned, well coordinated and meant to attack Bill on various fronts with the intent to defame, intimidate, stalk, harass and ultimately shut down “Lawless” and with it, silence victims of government and family court abuse.

Sociopaths seek to “win” at any cost, defending themselves to the point of logical absurdity

A Summary of Facts…

1) Claudine is creating a database of the names and confidential information of abused women and protective moms, since at least 2009. Well before Bill Windsor, and “Lawless America” were in the picture.

2) Claudine says she needs this database to protect the mothers

3) Claudine won’t reveal her sources of who is working with her on this database

4) Claudine has openly denounced Father’s Rights groups and activists but at the same time is active, and posting on a page that connects to, and promotes Father’s Rights. And is working with a group that promotes Glenn Sacks, and links to his site from their own page.

5) Claudine is connected to a group that has “misappropriated” the confidential database of Bill Windsor. Instead of confronting those responsible, she attacks the victim–Bill. Instead of protecting those whose information is at risk, she supports the perpetrator.

6) If Claudine were truly protecting abused women and protective mothers, then why do her actions support those who are harming these same women?

If there is any doubt, ATW is posting another screen shot.. this was taken from a website that was promoted on the Best Interest Page, the same page Claudine/Petunia Pig is active on.

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The Gavel Slams Down on Cyberstalking Claudine Dombrowski…

From Bill Windsor of Lawless America:
“Bill Windsor of Lawless America puts Claudine Dombrowski and the American Mothers Political Party out of the stalking and threat business…

Claudine Dombrowski has been ordered to post nothing about me and remove all postings in regard to me…”


See FULL Statement at: http://claudinedombrowski.com/?p=176

How did Claudine Dombrowski get away with cyber stalking, harassment and online bullying for so long?

As tempting as it is to put all the blame on Claudine, she was enabled by sympathizers the Mother’s Movement (including many of those pictured below).

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Many organizations in the Mother’s Movement not only looked the other way, and made excuses for Claudine as she continued to bully, harass and terrorize, but in some cases they promoted Claudine and her “Attack Mothers” ( AMPP). Anyone who tried to stand up to Claudine and her abusive ways were swiftly and viciously attacked, or forced into silence.

California Protective Parents Association (CPPA), Center for Judicial Excellence (CJE), Mothers of Lost Children (MOLC) and Safe Child Coalition work very closely together and might be run by the same small group of advocates-( see below; the same advocate who is a Chapter Leader for MOLC is also a Chapter Leader for Safe Child Coalition)

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-all who have supported and actively promoted Claudine Dombrowski and AMPP. Their support and promotion continues even when all were aware of Claudine and AMPP’s abuse and cyber bullying towards Protective Mothers Alliance (PMA) and Lawless, and others. Also, it is very easy to go online and within seconds, see evidence in the search results that strongly suggest that Claudine has bullied, tormented, and made obscene postings about a number of people, and organizations. How could the Mother’s Movement continue to promote Claudine under these circumstances?

Claudine was a featured speaker at the Battered Mother’s Custody Conference (BMCC), speaking against abuse even as she was a perpetrator of abuse and other criminal acts.

Having her moment under the lights at the BMCC, was so important to Claudine that she canceled a scheduled visit with her daughter. Are these the actions of a mother who would do anything to see her child after a long estrangement?

SCREEN SHOT of CANCELLED VISIT

Claudine appeared in short documentary films produced by California Protective Parents Association ( CPPA). CPPA also encouraged people to join AMPP

SCREENSHOT CPPA REFERING PEOPLE TO AMPP

And Claudine has been supported by the Center for Judicial Excellence. Center for Judicial Excellence( CJE) and their leader Kathleen Russell Reportedly “Share Same Values” and “Work Very Closely Together” with AMPP:

Kyle Wigglesworth, an AMPP Attack Mother, struggles to defend AMPP on Barry Goldstein’s wall. Kyle has posted many false, misleading and defamatory comments on Barry’s wall against PMA, Bill Windsor and Lawless, and even attacking other protective moms.

These are just a few examples on how many professionals and organizations within the Mother’s Movement promoted Claudine and AMPP (the only exception ATW could find is Protective Mothers Alliance-PMA- International, and they became one of the primary targets of Claudine’s attacks).

That the Mother’s Movement would give refuge to an abuser like Claudine, and look the other way while she has caused real harm to countless victims should make you ask is any mother really safe? These are organizations that promote themselves to be domestic violence experts, advocates for women, and being such domestic violence experts they should know how to discern an abuser from a victim, an abuser from a traumatized woman, and then be able take action to protect and defend the victim. But if these organizations can’t do that within their own movement, how can they be expected and trusted to do that for protective moms in family court???

A.T.W. will continue to follow this story, and provide updates.. stay tuned

For More Info Read the Claudine Dombrowski Expose: http://claudinedombrowski.com