LIE VS. FACT CHECK: Who is Gathering Information About the Mothers?

WHO IS GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT MOTHERS                                             AND CREATING A DATABASE??

 Lie vs. Fact Check Intro:

As we meander down this truth seeking path together, there are some lies so outrageous that you have to see it to believe it. We at A.T.W. are all for exposing the Lies vs. Fact Check.

This is how it will go:

1) We will quote the lie, and post the source it came from.
2) This will be immediately be followed by a quote of the facts, with proof

THE LIE:

Claudine Dombrowski, AMPP, has accused Bill Windsor of Lawless America of being connected to “Father’s Rights” and made accusations that he is creating a database to collect the information of abuse victims. Claudine has led her “Attack Mothers” aka supporters to harass, stalk, defame and threaten Bill Windsor.. as seen in this screenshot from Adrema Barbee Higgins.

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THE TRUTH:

Bill Windsor has previously issued a statement that he does not charge money to anyone appearing on Lawless America and he has created the documentary for a sincere purpose to help victims of government abuse and corruption,Lawless America does not charge a plug nickel for anything on our site or any help that we may be able to offer anyone.  I do all of this for no compensation of any type.  I do it out of the goodness of my heart — trying to battle corruption and help victims…”

Bill also explains that those appearing in “Lawless” are asked to provide basic contact information, and are voluntarily asked to provide that information as part of being in the film, this is a standard professional practice and is legally required,No one will be in the movie unless they provide their name, address phone number, email, and employment status. Anyone who takes the utterly ridiculous position that such information is identity theft needs mental help, in my opinion. These are people out to undermine this movie because the movie has the greatest chance of exposing the corruption and getting something done about it that any of us have yet seen... EVERYONE who appears in the movie will have to sign a release that allows us unlimited use of your likeness in promotion of the movie. Don’t sign the release, and you won’t be in the movie. This is a legal requirement that every movie must follow.”

See Full Statement of Bill Windsor on the “Lawless” movie release, and false accusations from Roxanne Grinage (Hire Lyrics): http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=798:roxanne-grinage-of-hirelyricsorg-is-the-latest-person-to-attempt-to-interfere-with-production-of-lawless-americathe-movie&catid=133:lawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105

The Truth: Claudine offers no evidence, documentation or other proof to substantiate this ridiculous claim, one of many lies she has waged against her (quote) “hit list“...she just wants you to take her word. And Claudine’s word so far has involved profanity, death threats, degrading comments about women and defamation. Clearly, Claudine’s word is not to be believed. 

Who’s the REAL Stalker?

 

The Truth: Claudine aka Petunia Pig has been gathering her own “database” to collect information about the mothers coming to her for help, and is giving the information to an un-named 3rd party. Claudine is doing exactly what she accuses others of doing!

2009, Petunia Pig on ‘Glenn’s Cult’ “I am in the process of cooperating with a fellow blogger in preparing the first ever of it kind database for abused and protective moms. This database will be in place to protect those women new to the family rights scene on the internet.” 

NOTE THE DATE AS 2009- WELL BEFORE BILL WINDSOR BEGAN HIS DOCUMENTARY

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is collecting information about protective mothers and creating a “database”. How well has Claudine protected these moms from “Father’s Rights”?

 

Who is the “fellow blogger” Claudine is working with??  

We know Claudine has joined forces with the cyberbullies at Joeyisalittlekid whose ranks include a man who allegedy talks to dragons, a man whose YouTube video suggests he has a drinking problem, a pedophile (or two), and people who have attacked other Protective Mothers and their Supporters

And other groups including..

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is again collecting names for her database, claiming to protect the mothers from “father’s rights”. But who is protecting the mothers from Claudine and AMPP?

 

WHERE, OH WHERE ARE THE “FATHER’s RIGHTS” GROUPS???

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg claims she has to protect the mothers from “father’s rights” groups…See here that this facebook page “Best Interest” is connected to We the People Family Preservation (WTP FP); J Guy F Babineau is one of the founders. We the People supports Father’s Rights, if you visit their website, there is a link to Glenn Sacks; THE Glenn Sacks of Claudine/Petunia’s attack blog–“Glenn’s Cult”.

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 In December 2012, We the People Family Preservation was accused of misappropriating the confidential database of “Lawless America”–which means they have gained access to sensitive information about abused women and protective mothers. Claudine/Petunia was made aware of this in the Best Interest group. This is the exact database Claudine herself had been trying to gain access to. Is it a coincidence that Claudine has NEVER raised concern about We The People and never confronted WTP to protect the Mothers who may have been affected? Why isn’t Claudine doing anything to hold We the People accountable for stealing the information of the mothers?

We the People Family Preservation is connected to Roxanne Grinage, who was a keynote speaker at one of their events. Roxanne has attacked Bill Windsor and “Lawless America”  with various lies and allegations, which are hard to make sense of due to her delusional ramblings, as described in the above link.

Roxanne is connected to American Mothers Political Party, and Lorraine Tipton, and has subscribed to the vulgar videos AMPP posted about Bill on YouTube.

Roxanne was also promoted on the Joey’s blog (who are supporters of AMPP and they have joined forces in cyber bullying), where readers were encouraged to contact her,”NinjaMarch 7, 2103 at 10:01 pm   Whoever has the screen shots of Pie man asking for help finding personal information on people and their SS#s should send it to Roxanne.”

What does this mean? There is collusion between the various groups attacking Bill Windsor and “Lawless America” indicating these attacks are well planned, well coordinated and meant to attack Bill on various fronts with the intent to defame, intimidate, stalk, harass and ultimately shut down “Lawless” and with it, silence victims of government and family court abuse.

Sociopaths seek to “win” at any cost, defending themselves to the point of logical absurdity

A Summary of Facts…

1) Claudine is creating a database of the names and confidential information of abused women and protective moms, since at least 2009. Well before Bill Windsor, and “Lawless America” were in the picture.

2) Claudine says she needs this database to protect the mothers

3) Claudine won’t reveal her sources of who is working with her on this database

4) Claudine has openly denounced Father’s Rights groups and activists but at the same time is active, and posting on a page that connects to, and promotes Father’s Rights. And is working with a group that promotes Glenn Sacks, and links to his site from their own page.

5) Claudine is connected to a group that has “misappropriated” the confidential database of Bill Windsor. Instead of confronting those responsible, she attacks the victim–Bill. Instead of protecting those whose information is at risk, she supports the perpetrator.

6) If Claudine were truly protecting abused women and protective mothers, then why do her actions support those who are harming these same women?

If there is any doubt, ATW is posting another screen shot.. this was taken from a website that was promoted on the Best Interest Page, the same page Claudine/Petunia Pig is active on.

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Abusers in the Mother’s Movement Pt 1: Barry Goldstein &AMPP; Claudine Dombrowski

One can only guess what is happening in the dark corners of the Mother’s Movement…

A bare bulb swings over a battered wooden table—deals have been made here, alliances forged, things that cannot be mentioned…. From the shadows a gold ring is produced, on which a single goat with ruby eyes and sharply curved horns shines. Goats have been the symbol of this organization for centuries.
“Kiss the ring”, a husky voice solemnly commands, “And it is done.”


A large, hairy hand picks up the bulky ring, admiring its power; it’s significance. Much like a goat, he protrudes his chapped lips and loudly smacks them against the ring.
They will not publicly announce their alliance. They will obscure the connection. Attack anyone who comes close to the truth. People believe what they want, not what really is.
A new predecessor has been named, and the change will sweep the Movement like wildfire…

This fictional account is based on the strange ramblings of Claudine Dombrowski (Co-Founder of the AMPP Attack Mothers)…at first glance, perhaps these writings could be dismissed but one has to wonder about the alliances being forged, the secret deals being made, and why leaders in the Mother’s Movement are so willing to accept the criminal and abusive behavior of Claudine and the American Mothers Political Party (AMPP).

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Claudine Dombrowski “whips” family court into shape!

LUNDY BANCROFT SPEAKS OUT: NO TO ABUSE!

(July 18, 2013) After enduring years of abuse and vicious online bullying inflicted by Claudine Dombrowski and her gang of AMPP Attack Mothers, domestic violence speaker and advocate, Lundy Bancroft writes a public letter acknowledging the abuse and online harassment directed towards Protective Mothers Alliance International (PMA) and co-founder, Janice Levinson, is not acceptable, and he will no longer work with those behind the attacks—Claudine Dombrowski of American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) and anyone who supports them.

Bancroft stated in his open letter to the Mother’s Movement that  “ We cannot fight against the power and actions of abusers, and of the courts that enable them, while we remain silent and acqiescent in the face of severely abusive of treatment of our own allies.”

PMA, an advocacy group for victims of abuse and family court injustice, had previously established itself as a “No Abuse Zone”.

Lundy Bancroft’s Statement: http://lundybancroft.blogspot.com/2013/07/defending-womens-rights-activist-who-is.html

ATW Reporting on Bancroft’s Statement & the Attacks: http://abusiveadvocates.com/2013/07/22/important-lundy-bancroft-speaks-out-ampp-attacks-on-protective-moms/

 

THE RESPONSE – CLAUDINE STRUGGLES FOR CONTROL, APPOINTS BARRY GOLDSTEIN

(July 20, 2013) Claudine’s response to Bancroft’s public statement is to escalate the abuse by continuing to post defamatory and vulgar posts against Bancroft, co-founder Janice Levinson, PMA as a whole and anyone who is labeled as the enemy.

AMPP declares war on Bill Windsor and Lawless America.. tells the Mothers Movement that you “better think twice about sleeping with THIS enemy!”.
Sleeping with ??

In a long, rambling letter written much like a funeral eulogy—and too often praising herself, Claudine Dombrowski declares that the esteemed Lundy Bancroft is “such a good kiss ass and good little oppressor”. Actually, you read between the lines, it appears Claudine’s problem with Bancroft is that he does not kiss her ass! It should also be noted that in researching, ATW found no evidence that Bancroft or PMA International has ever taken the role of or taken credit for being “leaders” in the Mother’s Movement. Quite the opposite, Bancroft does not seek media attention or praise for himself, but appears to keep the focus on supporting abused women, and raising awareness of family court failures. And Levinson seems focused on supporting mothers, and raising awareness of family court injustices—not placing emphasis on herself or seeking personal attention.

Claudine on Lundy Bancroft, “..such a good kiss ass and good little oppressor..”

Reply to Lundy Bancroft – Change is here, Lead, Follow or get out of the way. Human Rights. July 20, 2013. http:// claudinedombrowski.blogs pot.com

Claudine’s next step is to find someone willing to work with an abuser and criminal, and someone who will look the other way when advocates and protective moms are being abused and attacked.

Who is this person??

::drumroll::

Barry Goldstein!

Claudine says the Mother’s Movement must change..and Barry represents that change

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ATW has documented some of the vicious attacks and criminal behavior of Claudine and the AMPP Attack Mothers including:

AMPP Wages War Against Protective Mother’s Alliance International: http://abusiveadvocates.com/2013/02/20/breaking-news-ampp-wages-war-against-protective-mothers-alliance-intl/

Bill Windsor, “I fear for my safety and the safety of my family..” http://abusiveadvocates.com/2013/03/27/windsor-fear-for-safety/

Lorraine Tipton on the BMCC (The steely cold side of “mother’s rights” unmasked and unedited) http://abusiveadvocates.com/2013/05/02/lorraine-tipton-bmcc/

Please continue to visit Among the Wolves for continued updates  on the Mother’s Movement, and the Abusers Hiding Within